[On why God gives some people mental illness.]
I'm hearing impaired. Yes, I'm aware it's not a mental illness. My belief i that God blessed me with it so that I would not hear the negative things that are said about me. I'm aware of it's negative drawbacks but pay no attention to them.
My theory is that God gave the mentally challenged a gift wrapped in a challenge which he knew that they would be strong enough to handle. In fact this challenge itself provides the opertunity to build up their strength and character. So is the knowledge that they can overcome anything, if they can over come their personal challeges.
Further more, to address the negative side (the curse), my theory is that they suffer. But their suffering allows them in a unique way to understand the suffering of Christ. They may better recieve Christ because they have suffered and overcame just as Christ has. It's a unique oppertunity, just like anyone else, to understand and have a relationship with Christ.
That's why he [God] gives people Mental Disorders.
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I'm hearing impaired. Yes, I'm aware it's not a mental illness. My belief i that God blessed me with it so that I would not hear the negative things that are said about me.
Well then, it's a good thing you can come on the internet so you can read that people think you're a complete twatwaffle.
When you said you realized that your hearing problems weren't mental problems, why didn't you just shut the fuck up right then? Why do you feel qualified to talk about something you know nothing about. On behalf of all Autism spectrum people here and all over the world, I offer a hearty "FUCK YOU, BITCH!"
Well, I don't have a mental illness but I do suffer from persistant bad foot odor...obviously this qualifies me to speak for people with mental disabilities.
Can I spout off a bunch of dreck I pulled out of my ass about the mentally challenged too?
My Gethemane aren't you an idiot.
Please. If that's the case I ought to be REALLY close to god now. It would also be a particularly cruel challenge to give someone (speaking as someone who has suffered depression to varying degrees for 20 years -- from the age of SEVEN). . . you believe your god will send debilitating mental torment to seven-year-olds, but you still can't see why your god has no appeal for me?
Not only is your hearing impaired, so is your brain. Do you not realize that by your own statement, your god is an asshole.
And to call disorders a gift wrapped challenge... please do the world a favor... stopped coming up with theories.
You are a stupid idiot and you should thank your god for that!
It is NOT a 'theory', but a speculation .
I might speculate that a true Deity would endow the afflicted with some sort of spiritual compensation, not just suffering for its own sake.
"Receive Christ"?! Why do you suppose anyone would adopt your peculiar figment?
"They may better recieve Christ because they have suffered and overcame just as Christ has."
If that's the case, why aren't we *all* mentally disordered? Because heaven knows we can't fully appreciate Christ's suffering with an average I.Q. and sanity.
"But their suffering allows them in a unique way to understand the suffering of Christ. "
Get this through your narrow little skull: Jesus Christ DID NOT SUFFER, because he was GOD INCARNATE!
You flippin' retard.
Also, neither Jesus nor God exist(ed).
So, what use is my depression (et al) since I'm an atheist? Oh, wait, I know. God gave me this splendid opportunity and I just squandered it. Right.
At least the Southern Baptist church didn't contribute to my illness at all, what with it helping to put the bright idea into my eight-year-old head to attempt suicide so I could go to heaven. After all, if heaven's so great, what's the point in wasting time on earth? (My church did not believe you went to hell for killing yourself)
Also, if God gave me the mental disorders, why did I suffer from them more as a Christian than an atheist?
I also object to the use of the phrase "mentally challenged." That implies retardation. However, many people with mental illnesses are extraordinarily smart.
... and just to add, I have about £3000 worth of kit in my left ear right now, and I didn't have to pay for it, so let's score one for socialism while we're at it.
Added to all the other fail of this post, which the rest of you have identified so clearly and - in the case of Pascal Wagner - so hilariously, I have to add this:
I thought the whole idea of JC being crucified was that he suffered so we wouldn't have to. Right? If not, what was the point?
And if so, why would people have to suffer so they'd understand/experience his suffering?
My theory is that God gave the mentally challenged a gift wrapped in a challenge which he knew that they would be strong enough to handle. In fact this challenge itself provides the opertunity to build up their strength and character. So is the knowledge that they can overcome anything, if they can over come their personal challeges.
You have no fucking clue what you're saying, have you? You must be visually impaired too and thus unable to see the utter shit you're typing. How the hell is someone supposed to overcome god's "challenge" of mental retardation? With positive and determined thought? But the very nature of their condition means they can't fucking think, can they? That's like breaking someone's arms and legs and then promising to treat them after they've done a fucking sprint hurdle!
"My belief i that God blessed me with it so that I would not hear the negative things that are said about me."
Are people saying negative things about you? Is this so much of a problem that God has to fuck up your hearing to save you from the worst of it?
That's why he [God] gives people Mental Disorders.
And some are more "gifted" than others. You must be so proud, Gethemane.
Uh...is there a letter missing from your name?
Mental illness and mentally challenged are two different things you fucking twat.
Or are you just trying to convince yourself that because you can add double digit numbers, you're not crazy.
Gethemane so that is your excuse.
BTW mental illness, mentally challenged, and mental disorders are not synonymous. Using you for example
Mental Illness or Disorders: your delusional beliefs
Mentally Challenged: your sub-normal IQ
Speaking as someone who was actually born with a neural disorder, stop acting like an ass about things you don't understand. I won't pretend to know what it's like to be hearing impaired, you won't pretend to know what it's like to have a mental/neurological problem. It's not an opportunity designed by God to help people worship him more. It's a challenge that you have to face and work through, and hopefully come out of as a better person.
So what about the people suffering from mental illness who can't cope with the "challenge" that God has so kindly given them and commit suicide?
An all knowing God would know that they wouldn't be able to handle the gift of mental illness and would be able to foresee the eventual outcome. In such circumstances God would, effectively, be commiting murder. Even worse (from a Christian viewpoint) he's condemning them to hell for commiting suicide.
Right, so can I have you forcibly sterilised or even murdered, as Christians did to the disabled & mentally ill in parts of the United States & Nazi Germany, in the early to mid 20th Century, so you can increase your own relationship with Christ, by suffering as he did...?
I call first dibs on the Electro Convulsive Therapy equipment...
Okay, let's play a game. I will describe a mental disorder I have, and you can tell me why it's good.
1: I have a huge phobia of flying insects of a certain size.
2: Being alone with a stranger just makes me stand there, trembling with fear and getting ready to fight or run.
3: Practically all my emotions and feelings regarding something depends on which of 3 mental states I'm currently in. I switch at random. I.E, I go from being terrified of my partner abusing me but willing to accept it, to wanting him to abuse me, to being prepared to kill him if he does.
Find something good about those, you moron.
... It's shit like this that makes me ashamed at times to be a Christian...
Not only you really don't have a right to speak on something you know nothing about but you just made matters worse by saying;
God gave the mentally challenged a gift wrapped in a challenge which he knew that they would be strong enough to handle
Seriously asshole, eat shit and wash it down with period blood
I can actually see the logic in this, but it's still incredibly wrong for any God to put his believers through that sort of thing.
My close friend Neil has microtia, and he told me that if anyone said such a thing to his face -- and he was dead serious -- he'd fucking strangle them.
I don't blame him. I mean, how dare they say something like this? What an immensly cruel thing to say -- it's sick. And by the same token the people who say these things are sick -- not just twisted, but in the genuine sense of the word "sick": mentally ill .
Well perhaps if you ever accidentally end up on this site, Gethemane, God will make you blind too so you won't have to read what a stupid prick you are.
Wouldn't that be nice of him?
I have epilepsy. What was God's intention with that, pray?
I'm not suffering half as much as my husband, my parents and my co-workers do, when I have a seizure. What did they do to earn this?
And what did you do to earn such a bad grasp of English grammar? "opertunity"? Pu-lease!
If I ever met or knew this bitch (which would never happen) I would make her regret opening her big fucking mouth.
Seriously, I would fucking slap that fucking cruel, sick, twisted cunt until she was in tears.
Anyone who believes in such a sick and twisted deity and would actually worship said deity, is just sick and twisted himself.
"It's a unique oppertunity, just like anyone else"
If it's just like anyone else, it's not unique.
Btw, it's oppo rtunity.
For God so loved the world, he made it so I can never work, hallucinate vividly, can't be medicated, and can't be helped financially by the government.
Thanks, God.
right, so why did god give me ADHD,OCD,depressive bipolar,and schiophrenia?
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