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...I don't "SMACK" my kids... I spanked them. I used a belt, or a paddle. You use terms like "abuse"... "smack" ... to make it sound like abuse when it is and was not. I didn't just hit my kids or whale on them at a whim... We talked to them, we explained to them why we believed what we believed, our responsibility to God as their parent, how serious we took that role and then we spanked them for deliberate disobedience...

Why DO YOU try to make those who consider spanking... "NOT SMACKING" or "BEATING" or Abusing suitable for training a child in the way he should go.... appear as abusers? Is it to excuse your lazy attitude towards your own responsibility in raising your own children? Don't accuse me of smacking my child again... or abuse.

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PS.... I would use a switch also if I did not have a belt or a paddle, I'm not hurting my hand trying to spank the bottom of a disobedient child by hitting his jeans...

kensington, Grace Centered Christian Forums 62 Comments [3/27/2009 7:09:18 PM]
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Katsuro

Dear kensington,

Fuck you.

Signed

Humanity


3/27/2009 1:58:42 AM

Equalist

You know, I spank my children too. Bare hand through the clothes on the butt, when they do something dangerous, such as running towards the road, playing with electrical cords, or reaching for the stove after I've told them no, and the danger of the situation calls for immediate and strict action. Beating your children with an object other than your hand simply because you might hurt your hand on their bodies is sickening. Beating your child for basic disobedience is overkill.

3/27/2009 7:18:01 PM

Ian

I don't beat my child, I just beat them!

3/27/2009 7:20:16 PM

The Lazy One

Please just go and die in a fire now. Seriously. You hit your kid with objects because you don't want to hurt your hand? Where I come from we call people like that scum. In fact, that's an insult to scum.

I hope CPS gets called on you.

3/27/2009 7:25:10 PM

The_Raven

Look, I personally don't mind spanking kids, but using belts and paddles? Going a little too far there in my opinion.

3/27/2009 7:25:39 PM

Zabimaru

I'm always reminded of this little thing told by the late Astrid Lindgren:

""Above all, I believe that there should never be any violence." In 1978, Astrid Lindgren received the German Book Trade Peace Prize for her literary contributions. In acceptance, she told the following story.

"When I was about 20 years old, I met an old pastor's wife who told me that when she was young and had her first child, she didn't believe in striking children, although spanking kids with a switch pulled from a tree was standard punishment at the time. But one day when her son was four or five, he did something that she felt warranted a spanking - the first of his life. And she told him that he would have to go outside and find a switch for her to hit him with. The boy was gone a long time. And when he came back in, he was crying. He said to her, "Mama, I couldn't find a switch, but here's a rock that you can throw at me."

All of a sudden the mother understood how the situation felt from the child's point of view: that if my mother wants to hurt me, then it makes no difference what she does it with; she might as well do it with a stone. And the mother took the boy onto her lap and they both cried. Then she laid the rock on a shelf in the kitchen to remind herself forever: never violence. And that is something I think everyone should keep in mind. Because violence begins in the nursery - one can raise children into violence."

3/27/2009 7:32:07 PM

Painful

I don't know about belts or switches, but seriously - most of my friends agree, we all were giving one (or two for those thick headed ones) really good whoopings when we were a kid and it either taught us to behave or be more careful about being caught. Either way, we were not the selfish brats that run around today feeling "entitled" to everything.

My one friend's wife doesn't believe in any sort of punishment... guess who's kid bites, hits, steals stuff, throws a tantrum anywhere and anytime? Oh, and the kid is going to be a teenager this year - been doing all the above, all her life so far. Needless to say, don't spend much time with them like I did before she was around!

3/27/2009 7:40:26 PM

Zabimaru

Oh, and also: spanking adults can be a lot more fun anyway. Trust me.


:)

3/27/2009 7:40:39 PM

LDM

"Why DO YOU try to make those who consider spanking... "NOT SMACKING" or "BEATING" or Abusing suitable for training a child in the way he should go.... appear as abusers? Is it to excuse your lazy attitude towards your own responsibility in raising your own children?"

Because it is abuse? And what's "lazy" is what you're doing, instead of making time for your children, teaching them correct behavior before it gets to the point where spanking is needed, and keeping them occupied and distracted from mischief opportunities takes much more effort than smacking them because they're cutting into you're bible-thumping time.



And hitting your child with an object does constitute child abuse.



3/27/2009 7:48:30 PM

GreenEyedLilo

Well, you know, you go ahead and make things as comfortable and easy for *yourself* as possible. Everyone knows that's the most important rule of parenting, right?

I'm certain this waste of carbon's kids will be making things very painful and uncomfortable for him/her in short order.

3/27/2009 7:52:17 PM

Narwhalman

Child abuse for Jebus!!!

3/27/2009 7:56:32 PM

Oy Vey!

I don't "SMACK" my kids...

Yes you do.

I'm not hurting my hand trying to spank the bottom of a disobedient child by hitting his jeans

Wimp.

3/27/2009 8:00:56 PM

Mintywolf

I only believe in spanking between consenting adults.

3/27/2009 8:31:07 PM

EvoPagan

Listen, I have no problem with a spank on the butt with your hand, but if you're hurting your hand and have to get a switch, THAT'S ABUSE. I had to go pick out my own switches as a child. Better hope your kid doesn't grow up and decide to stick one up your ass and see if it takes root.

3/27/2009 8:33:17 PM

Philbert McAdamia

Don't accuse me of smacking my child again... or abuse. Or I'll discipline your ass with a tire iron, after first explaining to you why god wants needs to have it done.

3/27/2009 9:10:16 PM

Dio Fa

It is never a case of beating, smacking, or abusing a child when a Christian does it.

I hope one day that your children take baseball bats to your empty head.

3/27/2009 9:20:06 PM

Philbert McAdamia

@ EvoPagan

I also had to pick my switches. One time I was about 3, maybe 4 and the one I brought back was "too small", so I had to go back and readjust my sentence. I found a whole branch that had fallen off a tree and dragged the entire thing in. (Look, Mommy, here's a whole damned storeroom of justice for you to pick from and I won't have to waste time searching throughout all the forest for the perfect one.) In the process I got tar all over my clothes and ruined them. Haha, if only I could have appreciated then the dilemna that was for Mom. She felt so guilty.

But I have to wonder just how bad was I expecting to be? If she'd only known, she'd have said "That little thing, you call that a switch? Go back and bring me a chain saw!"

3/27/2009 9:35:05 PM

enna

You fail at parenting forever.

Your children will probably resent you treating them this way. Stop before they get old enough to figure out you're a short tempered abusive dickface.

3/27/2009 9:39:35 PM

ModernBunny

Blah blah blah. People who brag about how they hit their children sicken me.

3/27/2009 9:49:40 PM

nutcase

You'd better be careful, fuckface; those kids will be bigger and stronger than you one day, and they may even be deciding your financial affairs.

If you sow the wind, you'll reap the whirlwind.

3/27/2009 10:51:26 PM



The PS just makes this sickening. I don't wanna hurt my hand hurting my child, so I just something else. Fucking bastard.

3/27/2009 10:57:06 PM

Nowonmai

Hitting your child with a belt or paddle is what lazy parents do. Hit and hurt the child, beat them into submission, make them afraid.

Yeah, parent of the year award will definitely pass you by.

3/28/2009 12:00:34 AM



I'll never forget the look of sadistic pleasure on my mothers face when she beat me, pulled my hair, stuffed soap in my mouth, broke my bedroom door, called my dad in to kick the crap out of me, and so on. I got to see it again when she punched me during an argument a few months ago. She comes up with some real fun "religious" excuses too, like this fine Christian woman, but she mostly likes to call you crazy for suggesting such a thing happened and then deny all knowledge of the beatings.

Her parents beat her with belts until her back was raw. She just used her hands so she wasn't as bad, get it? Since they all relished it I'd say it's all the same. A disgusting behavior passed down through the family.

Yeah, I resent both of my folks. They're nothing short of perverts.


3/28/2009 2:06:16 AM

BrendanJD

"I used a belt, or a paddle"

Accoridng to most nations, this is abuse. In Canada, spanking is allowed as long as it is one of two strikes of an open hand, on an extremity like hand or buttocks. No tiems allowed.

So please, come on up to my lovely nation and smack your kick with a belt. I dare you, you sick perverted fuck.

3/28/2009 5:55:23 AM

Aethernaut

You say tomAYto,
And I say tomAHto,

You say potAYto,
And I say potAHto.

Let's call the whole thing off?

3/28/2009 6:12:40 AM
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