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Scientific Fact No. 10 - Lack of Life on Mars Proves Evolution is Wrong.

Two NASA land rovers, named Spirit and Opportunity, explored Mars during 2004. The topography showed obvious signs of past liquid rivers flowing in numerous places. The rovers have proven that water was once abundant on the surface of Mars, but they have not been able to find any signs of life, or any signs of past life, on the planet. Mars has a proven history of flowing water on the surface with an atmosphere suitable to support life forms. The planet has had all of the conditions necessary to provide the "spark" of life according to the evolutionary theory. Yet, there is no life on Mars. The river beds and river banks show no signs of vegetation or trees. The ground has no fossils and no organisms. The place is absolutely sterile.

Well, Mars was once sterile, but it is not sterile now. The rovers and other probes sent to Mars have contaminated the plant with bacteria, viruses and other possible organisms. This contamination has destroyed the possibility of proving that these life forms evolved on Mars.

The chance of finding evidence of past life forms on Mars seems very remote, but even if life were found, it does not prove that life evolved any more than life on Earth proves evolution. It simply does not. Evolutionists have struck out again.


Kent R. Rieske, B.Sc., Top Ten Scientific Facts Proving Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution is Wrong, False and Impossible 53 Comments [3/27/2009 9:51:38 PM]
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Katsuro

Yeah, coz evolutionary theory states that life will ALWAYS grow where there's water, no matter what. No exceptions. Ever.

Also, why did God make all these other planets in the universe? Was he bored? Did he do it for the same reasons people make works of art? Seems weird a God who is supposed to be beyond human comprehension and all that has the same emotions and states of mind as us.

3/27/2009 2:11:29 AM

Tom S. Fox

Oh FFS, Evolution =/= Abiogenesis

3/27/2009 5:41:37 AM



this made my brian itch

3/27/2009 9:54:57 PM

onoma

do you even pay attention to what you say/write?

3/27/2009 10:00:51 PM

Jadehawk

environmental determinism fail

3/27/2009 10:06:11 PM



with an atmosphere suitable to support life forms

Typical creationist lies. the pressure is .13 psi, its 95% carbon dioxide and its colder than antartica. I hope the other 9 lies dont mention my fvorite planet.

3/27/2009 10:09:00 PM

Dio Fa

We came, we looked in a couple of spots, and found nothing. That's statistically significant enough to claim that no life exists, or has ever existed, on Mars.

Dipshit. That diploma mill should take back your "degree'.

3/27/2009 10:17:46 PM

SurfinSeaOtter

Well I'm convinced.... <end sarcasm>

3/27/2009 10:34:14 PM

Papabear

I hope there's a bannister nearby because you don't have much of a grip on things.

That the rovers didn't find evidence of life or past life only proves the rovers didn't find such evidence. They didn't visit much of the planet and they didn't do all the meaningful tests.

No serious scientists expected to find fossil trees or the like.

Whether or not there is or ever was life on Mars is irrelevent to the validity of the ToE. The initiation of life is not part of the ToE.

3/27/2009 10:48:45 PM

jc

So basically:
If they don't find life on Mars evolution is wrong, but if they do find life it was planted there by the rovers."

3/27/2009 11:02:20 PM

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3/27/2009 11:32:01 PM

solomongrundy

I wondered who Kent R Rieske was so I googled him. As well as being a fundie he's batshit insane about nutrition too, read his 'vitamin, mineral and supplement program' here: http://www.biblelife.org/vitamins4me.htm

Apparently, if you follow the 'USDA Dietary Guidelines for Americans 2005' you will have serious health problems as 'Neither the Food Guide Pyramid nor the RDA is based on scientific facts.' In fact,'If you follow the Food Guide Pyramid as your daily nutritional guide, you will encounter many related degenerative diseases like diabetes, heart disease, cancer, bowel disease, autoimmune diseases and many more'. He doesn't mince his words, 'It’s all a scam. There is no hard science behind the establishment of the USFDA daily nutritional requirements...The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food Guide Pyramid was developed by vegetarians with an agenda.'

No, what Mr Rieske says you need to do for excellent health is to eat nothing but meat and animal fat and take 52 different supplements at the right time of day.



3/27/2009 11:52:55 PM

Nowonmai

Actually it proves Darwin was right. You have to have life giving environment for life to begin and evolve.

3/27/2009 11:54:34 PM

The Watcher

How does not finding life on some other planet mean that life didn't evolve here? There is absolutely no correlation whatsoever here!

3/28/2009 12:40:43 AM

Orion

I read the whole source page.

It's filled with weasel words like "evolutionists say" or "scientists say" or "experts say" without citation. The only citations are to point out facts like the existence of Tiktaalik without citing what exactly is wrong with it.

It's also filled with total misunderstandings of the ToE and blatant ignorance in claiming that the Big bang and abiogenesis theories are part of evolutionary theory. And at one point the author has the absolute gall to claim that evolution is wrong because it keeps getting revised, then compares biology to engineering as a science! Which is like comparing Medicine to Physics!

There's even one gem where he claims that Whales are fish. Oh and the whole thing is chock full of bible verses and claims that all people who believe evolution are brainwashed and that University's are big brainwashing facilities. He even claims (I love this) that Liberal thinking is a Mental Illness, citing a book from a "top" (weasel words) psychologist that describes why liberalism is a mental illness. Oh and he also defines Schizophrenia as "doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".

He insists no legitimate transitional fossils have been found before later going on to say they have been found but there aren't enough, there should be lots! He also insists many of the legitimate ones are just now extinct species that God created, he even pulls out the "if evolution is true why are there still monkeys?" fallacy (but this time with fishes!).

Oh and he concludes that because we haven't detected any radio or x-ray (sic) signals from other planets with all our amazing monitoring devices in the few decades we've been looking that we will never find any and that this proves evolution is false for some reason. I mean living creatures don't actually emit radio or any other signals retard, we only started doing that very recently and we only monitor a very limited amount of frequencies and planets in the vain hope we'll strike lucky and make contact.

He also says that pride is the reason evolutionists reject all his evidence and refuse to admit they're wrong, which coupled with the "biology is wrong because it's always changing" bullshit makes it even stupider.

To sum up, this guy is your ultimate in creationist. Seemingly smart to the layman, but to the skeptical eye, totally facetious and false.

3/28/2009 12:59:57 AM



I laughed.

3/28/2009 1:23:42 AM

the old firm

Thanks @Tempus and Orion for your detailed research.


3/28/2009 2:03:15 AM

Thammuz

Read the instruction sheet with which life froms come, in the fine print it states: "Evolution NOT guaranteed."

3/28/2009 3:33:23 AM

Mister Spak

The fundie strikes out again.

3/28/2009 5:21:19 AM

anevilmeme

Loon.

3/28/2009 5:25:24 AM

484

People already found evidence that there was once life on Mars. You fail.

3/28/2009 6:00:22 AM



Scientific Fact No. 10 - Lack of Life on Mars Proves Evolution is Wrong
#10? Darn you cretinists to heck! What happens when a cretinist learns all 20 scientific facts? Does he win a free barbeque?

This contamination has destroyed the possibility of proving that these life forms evolved on Mars.
You've destroyed the possibility of proving to us that you have a brain, but we can keep you around as court jester. Just don't question King Darwin, because we all worship him so.

3/28/2009 6:34:44 AM

DCN

I love how the title of the page is "Top Ten Facts" and there are 13 "facts" listed. He even fails at counting.

3/28/2009 6:44:12 AM

FMG

Actually if life on mars was found we could identify it. If it is an earth species we would know due to DNA sequencing. Life on mars would run on a different schema to our DNA structure.

DUH...

3/28/2009 7:13:11 AM

Pule Thamex

You won't find any evidence of life on Mars because it's been created in God's image, or rather, lack of image. In other words it's invisible and intangible. They may be a smell however. That would be the odious reek of lies, dissembling, spin, fallaciousness, desperate adherence to an outmoded religious world view, etc

3/28/2009 9:41:42 AM
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