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We do not allow any of our children to be vaccinated. This decision was not based on emotion, but on studying the issue in depth over the course of several months.

I am well aware of the reactions this causes in some people. Ironically, those who have accused me/us of being irresponsible and crazy have themselves never educated themselves on the subject, other than maybe asking their child's doctor about it (who obviously has a vested interest in this issue).

This post is not intended to conclusively show how and why vaccines are detrimental, because that would take too long. I hope to expose several problems with vaccines in different posts over the next few months.

Today, I would like to draw attention to the fact that as parents, we really do not know what our children are being injected with, some of which will stay in their blood stream for the rest of their lives. I do not trust our government with its anti-God agenda and our modern medical establishment that knows next to nothing about health with my child's lifelong wellbeing.

For example, one way to be able to identify all humans beings for life would be to inject them with a harmless virus that is unique to each individual. The body would then develop antibodies to that specific virus, and for the rest of his/her life, this person could now be identified after a simple blood test. I agree that this is a crazy notion, but sadly, governments are wicked and often pursue wicked ideals at the expense of human population.

As a sidenote, I read an interesting statistic this week. It said that the number 1 cause of unnatural death worldwide is being murdered by one's government. Shocking, isn't it? It also went on to say that while there have been thousands of dictatorships worldwide throughout history, there have been less than 10 nations who have enjoyed freedoms like the ones the United States had when the country was founded. Sadly, our freedoms are falling by the wayside quickly as a fabricated "war on terror" is ushering in a one-world government that will oppress humans worldwide, but I do believe that we are still the freest and therefore greatest nation on the face of the earth today.

ZSUZSANNA, ARE THEY ALL YOURS ??!? 34 Comments [4/20/2009 12:58:54 PM]
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#942980

Lucilius

What the fuck have you been injected with? A vaccine against sanity?

4/20/2009 1:07:27 PM

#942995

aaa

She embodies all that is wrong in modern america.

A combination of gullibility, lack of critical thinking and by far the worst problem of all, complete inability to learn from mistakes.

4/20/2009 1:27:44 PM

#942999

DarkfireTaimatsu

this person could now be identified after a simple blood test.

Yeah, it's called DNA.

4/20/2009 1:35:02 PM

#943008

rw23

> we really do not know what our children are
> being injected with

You do know, or rather you would if you made the effort.

> some of which will stay
> in their blood stream for the rest of their
> lives

Well, that's mostly the idea. And not in a bad, uber-global-conspiratorial sort of way.

4/20/2009 1:56:51 PM

#943012

shykid

4/20/2009 2:01:17 PM

#943013

Seeker in the Dark

So when your kids die of smallpox after spreading it to the rest of their classmates, you can blame the EVIL government, right?

4/20/2009 2:02:04 PM

#943014

Swedish Pagan

Ask the slaves what they thought of the so called freedom when US was founded.

Several lethal diseases have been on the brink of extinction, til some nitwits decided to not have their children vaccinated. And then the outbreak was a fact. Milions of people used to die of measles, til it became controlled with vaccines. Now milions of people are again dying of measles. Good show!

There is no need for a unique virus. We allready have unique DNA.

Just 'cause you read something doesn't mean it's true. And you can prove just about anything with statistics. What is unnatural death? Death is the most natural thing in the world, besides birth. Dying of measles when there is vaccine against it, that might be considered unnatural...

4/20/2009 2:03:15 PM

#943015

shykid

Grrr, double post, sorry.

4/20/2009 2:03:49 PM

#943104

ausador

I really feel sad for your kids. :(

4/20/2009 5:14:21 PM

#943130

FMG

Wait you based your ideas on vaccination after SEVERAL MONTHS of study. See I have been in Medical school for 2 years. Doctors have been in here for 6 atleast. Your telling me that after 3 months you know more than me and MORE than them?

Yes we do have a vested interest in vaccinating your children dumbass. Its called CURING PEOPLE. Surprisingly we don't like sick people.

Also there is no such thing as a harmless virus that stays in our system. If it is "Harmless" it is DESTROYED.

Also the number one cause of death worldwide is AIDS, Lower Respiratory infections, Ischaemic heart disorders and Strokes. Not governments killing their own people.

M'kay?

4/20/2009 5:46:28 PM

#943139

lol what

For example, one way to be able to identify all humans beings for life would be to inject them with a harmless virus that is unique to each individual. The body would then develop antibodies to that specific virus, and for the rest of his/her life, this person could now be identified after a simple blood test.

Why... why would we need to make a special virus for everyone when we already have fingerprinting and DNA analysis?

I agree that this is a crazy notion

Yes. Yes it is.

4/20/2009 6:13:42 PM

#943142

jsonitsac

"As a sidenote, I read an interesting statistic this week. It said that the number 1 cause of unnatural death worldwide is being murdered by one's government."

So, "accidents" aren't accidents?

4/20/2009 6:39:18 PM

#943275

Shadoom

"there have been less than 10 nations who have enjoyed freedoms like the ones the United States had when the country was founded"

As in the freedom to own slaves, lynch innocent black people without consequence, abuse women, massacre native Americans, etc?

4/21/2009 12:57:54 AM

#943287

Educated you?. Obviously, you don´t know which "bodies" are those anti- against. And by the way, the fact that with a drop of blood you´re identified, sorry woman, did you hear about DNA?

4/21/2009 1:26:40 AM

#943289

If vaccines were so bad, you'd probably not exist, IDIOT. Your parents and grandparent´s would have died of measles.

4/21/2009 1:30:08 AM

#943297

LDM

You must either live outside the US or homeschool your kids, because most school districts here won't allow you to enroll your kids without proof of vaccination.

"we really do not know what our children are being injected with,"

It's an "empty" form of the virus your vaccinating against, which "wakes up" the antibodies in your own body to fight them off and form a sort of shield against them. I learned that in junior high, sheesh.

Another one of those posts that makes me want to call my mom and say "thank you".

4/21/2009 1:49:29 AM

#943303

Tolpuddle Martyr

Ah, get 'em vaccinated anyway - the commies already put fluoride in the water supply and CIA mind control satellites can now control you through your phone - so your basically doomed tinhat! Now let your kids get some proper medical treatment already and go back to hiding under the bed!

4/21/2009 2:33:08 AM

#943444

redlemon

It's people like this who compromise herd immunity, so people like me who can't take vaccinations get all nervous.

4/21/2009 7:41:21 AM

#943448

EvoPagan

I believe that children should be vaccinated for contagious epidemic diseases such as polio, measles, mumps, smallpox and whooping cough.

I do NOT believe that vaccines such as Gardasil for HPV should be mandatory. HPV/cervical cancer is not epidemic in the sense of polio, and this vaccine has NOT been studied long enough. I have read about girls suffering severe reactions and dying after getting this vaccine and my daughter WILL. NOT. GET. IT. I would not touch it with a ten foot pole were I young enough for it.

I don't think that flu shots should be mandatory either. I used to always get them because I have asthma and I still got the flu every single year. Now I don't get flu shots any more and guess what? I haven't had the flu since 2004.

Some vaccines are good. Some are crap. If they are being pushed and lobbied by the company making them to make them mandatory, that makes me very uncomfortable.

4/21/2009 7:49:27 AM

#943635

"there have been less than 10 nations who have enjoyed freedoms like the ones the United States had when the country was founded"

there are 9 more countries stolen?

4/21/2009 12:51:49 PM

#943636

Antichrist

So instead of using DNA to identify each person, they're going to develop a virus for each individual person?

I know the US government is a wasteful spender, but that's really over the edge.

As for kids being killed by the government, I'd like to see the stats for that. I'd also like to see how they came to that conclusion. Does it include African child soldiers? Does it include kids who died in government run hospitals?

4/21/2009 12:56:07 PM

#943649

Clown

Are you living in Third World country? You should be happy for being able to vaccinate them at all... Damn, I have just lost some more faith in humanity.

4/21/2009 1:14:07 PM

#943681

Caterina

My mother had polio. She was one of the lucky ones who survived in relatively good health. I had some pretty crappy reactions to vaccines, but it was due to the moron who injected me, not the vaccine itself. Personally, I'm iffy on mandatory flu, pneumonia, and chicken pox vaccines. I think the vaccine for meningitis is a good thing. I'm ambivalent to Gardasil and have given my daughters the choice on that one (they've decided to skip that one so far). And, I do believe there are instances where the vaccine schedule might need to be broken up a bit. You and your doctor discuss and decide.

However, I honestly think that refusing to vaccinate is just completely reckless, irresponsible, and possibly murderous.

Not that this gawd-awful person is going to read this, but I really hope she intends to put her kids in a plastic room and never let them leave. That is the only way to guarantee their safety and that of those around the kids.

4/21/2009 2:29:35 PM

#943984

Cole

Fuck. I was not expecting the turn there. I started reading it thinking it was all gonna be about aborted fetal tissue, mercury, and autism. I was wrong. At least those arguments can be refuted. This? THIS nonsense? All you can do is laugh at it.

4/22/2009 5:23:10 AM

#944961

Carol

I was actually agreeing with the person on some things about the vaccines, I have done some research and while I do know what it is the kids are injected with, I really don't think it is such a great idea to inject newborn babies with some of these. So I wasn't seeing anything that wrong with the post until it got to the last couple of paragraphs. . . . .

4/23/2009 5:16:47 PM

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