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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Enochs fire, Topix 59 Comments [5/13/2009 12:14:35 PM]
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breakerslion

WRONG! You get an F in History.

5/13/2009 12:18:47 PM

El Guapo

What is the connection between moral and religious?

5/13/2009 12:18:49 PM

CohibaMan

Which particular morality and which particular religion?

If this were true, one would expect that the document would spell it out, which it does not.

The ignorance of this comment is compounded by the fact that the framers of the Constitution hardly held the religious belief our dear poster most likely holds...

5/13/2009 12:18:54 PM

Brenz

I would love to see the immoral people's constitution.

5/13/2009 12:24:18 PM

aaa

Sometimes, i really want to smack the stupid out of some forums.

5/13/2009 12:24:30 PM

Seeker in the Dark

@Brenz:
Glad to see I'm not alone! I hope it goes something like "every citizen shall have the inalienable right to PARTY!!!" :)

5/13/2009 12:33:31 PM

Grigadil

The Constitution was formulated upon the assumption that 'We the People' are all honest and willing to work together.


5/13/2009 12:47:26 PM



Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. /eq

The Constitution was formulated upon the assumption that 'We the People' are all honest and willing to work together. /eq

It's buggered either way.

5/13/2009 12:49:58 PM

Mister Spak

Which explains why we had warrentless wiretapping, torture and a depression when christians were running it.

5/13/2009 12:50:08 PM

Thinking Allowed

Please show me where it says that? In the meantime, I'll show you something that says otherwise.

*source* The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

5/13/2009 12:54:40 PM

Papabear

No, the whole point of the U.S. (at least, it's supposed to be the point) is that ALL persons are equal under the law, with equal rights and equal protections. Nowhere in any of the founding documents does it say anything about religious persons being the only ones covered by the constitution.

Religious persons are not the only persons with moral standards. In fact, your advocation for denying constitutional protections for others is proof that your moral standards are poor.

Now STFU and go away.

5/13/2009 12:54:48 PM

LDM

I'm moral, but not religious. So the constitution only half applies to me?

5/13/2009 12:55:57 PM

Thinking Allowed

Please show me where it says that? In the meantime, I'll show you something that says otherwise.

*source* The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

5/13/2009 1:01:33 PM

emau99

Maybe you could explain which "moral" and which "religious" people the Constitution applies to?

Afterwards, could you explain why it's so often the religious people who are seeking to deny others the rights provided to them by the US Constitution?

5/13/2009 1:01:36 PM

The Skeptic Wept

In the context of this poster's remarks I'd say that, by the very nature of his beliefs, he could never have originated the constitution as it is written. Why is it that every fundie seems to want everyone else to live to their miserable standards and can never seem to fathom the concept of "live and let live"?

5/13/2009 1:14:48 PM

Pule Thamex

For fun lovers and connoisseurs of ranting and childish invective:-

He's a piss-sipping dolt.

For graspers-at-straws:-

Straws should be banned.

5/13/2009 1:18:33 PM

Orestes

Which is precisely why Franklin so passionately pushed for the Constitution. Despite, you know, being an atheist and all. I'm sure he just hated himself.

5/13/2009 1:24:49 PM

C_V


@LDM:

pffft, you can't be moral without religion, don't you know that??

5/13/2009 1:28:56 PM



Yeah, but it's still "We the People..." bitch.

5/13/2009 1:35:02 PM

Dio Fa

I regret to inform you that you are required to leave the country immediately. While you might be religious, you are not moral, and therefore not protected by the Constitution.

You have twenty four hours to vacate before we launch the cruise missiles.

5/13/2009 1:47:58 PM

WMDKitty

...and this is what happens when you let religitards homeschool.

5/13/2009 1:57:07 PM

shifty eyes

I do think the constitution requires a certain spirit in the people (zietgeist if you will). But that spirit is one of cooperation, acceptance of uncertainty and risk, and thoughtfulness; not religion.

5/13/2009 1:59:46 PM

JSS

Show me the statement in the Constitution that says so.

5/13/2009 1:59:59 PM

Zoo

No, no it wasn't, and no it isn't.

And moral =/= religious.

5/13/2009 2:03:14 PM

The Lazy One

You fail at the Constitution. It's supposed to grant equal rights to all people, whether they are Christian, Muslim, atheist, or Pastafarian.

5/13/2009 2:27:13 PM
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