The septic system is just another invention and if it was needed God himself would have placed it on earth when he created all things that humans needed to live. All the inventions ever made do not improve apon Gods work as you can not improve perfection.
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Yeah, we're perfect all right. That's why we don't need pacemakers, prosthetics, wheelchairs, and braces. Ah, it's a good life.
Is he SERIOUS!
Genex, have you ANY idea how many people died of typhoid and cholera before HUMANS invented proper sewage systems? Millions, that's how many. So he didn't create what those millions needed to live, did he?
Go out and live on a hillside, and use only what God provided, and see how long you last.
Yes, those pesky stupid wheels, and knives and clothes and pergaments and pens and...
The nature is far from perfect. Why do we have an appendix? The only function of this seems for it to be infected and ruptured. Plus, before we had the knifes and the spears and the slings we were very vulnerable to the other animals. Far from the kings of creation. It's our brain and its ability to come up with inventions, and act on them, that makes us special.
Stupid!!!
I end up making more or less the same comments on RR posts every time, but here we go again:
These people seem to think that all you have to do is SAY something that sounds reverent to God and that MAKES you moral, when in reality what they are saying is nonsense. It's easy, look:
"I feel so sinful every time I eat food, because I am denying my trust in the Lord that he will nourish me with his love"
What pisses me off is the fact that these people feel that they have earned some kind of moral high ground over others with these inanities. They constantly try to prove their moral fibre by saying how disgusting and evil they are, make dangerously anti-scientific statements like this and imagine that it counts as some kind of verbal devotional offering to God, and sit back imagining that they've earned the right to think of themselves as superior to everyone else, when they have in fact offered nothing to the world except a perpetuation of a dehumanising and dangerous delusion.
So all these inventions that you probably take for granted (heat, electric, clean water) improve our life and lifespans. So this by your logic means that god is not perfect. this makes him not a god, so he doesnt exist....i win!
"The septic system is just another invention and if it was needed God himself would have placed it on earth when he created all things that humans needed to live."
Yes, all things including pathogens which spread via the oral-faecal route, we don't really need them at all but you believe your biblegod put them here.
"All the inventions ever made do not improve apon Gods work as you can not improve perfection."
Tell that to the people who get sick and or died when their water supplies got contaminated with sewerage.
I wonder if he skeptic system?
Anyway, without human inventions chances are you'd be living in a cave or more likely, dying from measles/polio/smallpox/typhoid/difteria/malnutrition/scurvy/cholera/wolf attack/apendicitis... I could keep going and going.
Then please throw all your bibles away.
You and all of you who think likewise are hereby ordered to memorize all the stories within the bible and conserve them by oral tradition, just like the jews did with their stories, before they put them down into books from around 1000 BCE onward.
Agreed, God did make some perfect things. Human females and particularly their pussies. Air, to carry sound waves so we can have music. Possibly one or two other things as well. Maybe the President of the USA, Barrack Obama.
He made some crap things as well. Diseases, religions, HOP (His Own Party), Bush, His own deep and abiding interest in the comfortably situated and whining of America, apparently, etc.
He also stumbled somewhat and flunked 'Creative Creation' classes. For instance, where's my divinely created never-emptying-money-box? Not impressed.
Slightly off subject, I know, but I was wondering if you had any news yet on the perfect and predicted persecution of the perfect Rapture Ready site by the perfectly black President of the USA, Barrack Obama?
Also, to be perfectly honest, I'd love it if you had some indication of when the predicted and perfect Whooshfest will be?
For thousands of years people were told, by others very much like you, that sin caused disease and so they happily continued to shit in their drinking water and sacrifice a chicken or a goat here and there in the hope that it would appease the wrathful, spiteful, hateful god.
Turns out, though, that once the intellectual shackles of religion were cast aside science discovered that shitting in your drinking water is a *bad thing* and in short order sanitation systems were developed and death rates from cholera, etc., dropped dramatically.
You people seem to think that a prerequisite for believing in god is a wilful lack of curiosity and a commitment to not thinking ("I is dumb for jesus!"). Thousands of lives, perhaps millions, were lost because of people like you and your deep-seated - and unforgivable - anti-intellectualism, a condition born of both mental and moral cowardice.
BWAHAHAHAhA! You mean like clothes? Medicine? Transportation? Shelter? TV? (Ok TV Bad example) Are you saying that plumbing is Satanistic? My garden hose is the work of the Devil!
@ Eden
So you won't mind if we take your guns away, then, right? Since they're just another human invention, after all, infringing on god's perfection.
One too many swirlies in high school, methinks. Possible brain damage from hypoxia.
All the inventions ever made will not improve upon Genex's ability to avoid thinking.
Of course, you're right; our excretions are holy. So, Genex, you won't mind when I crap in your church and leave it for God to clean up.
Oh, just another invention, like clothing, houses, and the computers you are using. Yes, the septic system is so evil, you should go ahead and stop using it and crap in the backyard in some corner, or in a river. See how far that will get you.
In fact, to prevent yourself from pooping a lot, just stop cooking food. Cooking is just a type of invention that requires man to make fire where it doesn't belong like in a volcano to make new types of food. God didn't create cooking, so just stop while you are at it.
I have to recommend the thread. It is a perfect example of RR paranoia, stupidity, bigotry and total fundamentalist bible-love.
A guy makes a big point that they shouldn't have a problem with installing a septic system because the bible says nowhere that you shouldn't install a septic system.
As a group, plumbers have saved millions. Priests? well, not too many. Of course, even if God did exist, I'm not sure he'd have created priests.
We cannot be clean, healthy people unless it is God's will!
And going by what it says in the Bible, it isn't.
Well, we clearly didn't need that tree in order to live. You know, the one that Eve ate from...
Oh, wait, that's a fairy tale. NVM
Genex, you go live in the wild and live off the wonderful things god has provided for you to live.
Meanwhile, while you're travelling down the digestive track of a timber wolf, I'll be sitting at my computer stuffing my face with doughnuts, nice and warm via my central heating (it's frigging cold today!) and injecting myself with insulin as god didn't see fit to provide me with a functioning pancreas.
And you say that on the Internet, using a computer, sitting in a house, presumably in a chair, etc...
We invented things long before modern sanitation. Like agriculture, animal husbandry and domestication of animals. Control of fire. And writing, which made the invention of religious scriptures like your bible possible. Better toss that KJV. It's not natural.
Okay, so I'm to assume you don't use a septic system of any kind, so I'm assuming you don't have indoor plumbing. I'm guessing you don't get a lot of visitors, do you?
Advances in medical science. Without them, we wouldn't have asthma medication. Without that, my daughter would be dead.
If your God had made everyone, and made them PERFECT, she wouldn't need that shit in the first place and I wouldn't have to worry whenever she gets the sniffles.
If this Genex has successfully infiltrated and Poed RR, we need to respect his/her ninjitsu
Everlasting Peace plays the straight man. This is probably the only time you'll ever read "This has nothing to do with God" on Rapture Ready.
This was the first thing that bothered me about fundie Christianity. They're constantly trying to out bullshit each other, to the point that they come out with completely ridiculous shit.
But never call bullshit on one of them, the entire congregation will turn on you like a pack of hyenas.
Says the person typing on a computer in a first-world country with running water, toilets, electricity, and telecommunication systems.
You know before things like septic systems, there was literally sewage in the streets. During the Dark Ages they would fill up buckets and when they were full they'd just dump them out the window. Consequently, this is also why plagues like the Black Death (which still exist today but harm almost no one) were able to kill 1/3 of the population... twice.
All the inventions ever made do not improve apon Gods work as you can not improve perfection
Then, by all means, feel free to no longer use these evil, nasty, dirty, naughty, naughty inventions.
Come to think of it, why are you using such a sinful demonically powered "invention" as a computer? Heretic!!! BURN HIM!!!
The irony being that Genex makes use of one every damn day. And I'm pretty sure God didn't invent water purification, either, but Genex also makes use of that at least every few hours.
But hey Genex, feel free to move to some poverty-stricken, war-torn, Third-World-hellhole-that-hasn't-had-the-luxury-of-implementing-such-God-declared -USELESS-THINGS, and contract cholera. I can guarantee no one here'll stop you.
I cannot believe somebody posted that for all the world to see.
Tell you what, Genex. Poop and piss all over your house. Maybe all the waste will be gone the next day. You folks need to look up something called the brain. It's not there to balance your head on your shoulders.
This isnt a Poe, as he suggests they agree to disagree, and a troll would keep it going. Look at what follows in the quote:
'These people have lived this way for hundreds of years on the same land in most cases and they are not dropping over dead. We beleave these things are needed becasue some group said it is. Usualy starting becasue someone didnt like somthing about the process IE the smell. For 5900 years humans did not need this invention and this confirms even more that Gods creation is perfect.'
Get the fuck off your computer and out of your house then. Oh, and never take medication, drive a car, or wear clothes.
Hmmm, the Bible wasn't placed on this Earth at creation either... I guess it didn't really improve anything.
I should have the right to confiscate all of his things and money on the sheer basis of this stupid statement.
Hey, maybe if the remnants of his miserable little life fetch over $80,000, I can buy that hot-air blimp I've had my eye on...
Meantime, without my glasses I would not be able to type this message even though I'm doing so on a laptop which is perched on my lap.
And I am not 30 feet tall.
*injects you with AIDS and drops you buck naked in a rainforest*
If you're so perfect, you should survive, right? Right?
Confused?
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