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The hateful emotion and blatant bigotry directed at those who believe in God's creation by those who cling to a worn-thin theory of Darwinism only reveal how weak their position is and how much even they sense this. True security in belief does not result in irrational words and deeds, such as those posted here and elsewhere by folks outraged that someone would dare to disagree with them. Their "science" is actually a religion.

If they had any real science to talk about, why are they not posting that? No one has adequately answered how the first protein formed out of inorganic matter - or how the inorganic matter originally emerged.

Genuine scientific inquiry is shut down by the same people who attack Christians for believing the evidence of creation revealing the truth of God's Word.

I wouldn't be moved a bit even if some alleged link were found. There were plenty of odd creatures destroyed in the Flood, which is referenced in ancient cultures around the world and by the oldest written communication: The Epic of Gilgamesh. The most unique aspect of humanity is the soul.

haolam, RR 64 Comments [5/24/2009 12:24:41 PM]
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Old Viking

How original. Page 114 of The Fundy Book of Drivel.

5/24/2009 12:38:38 PM

Porky Pine

You wouldn't know real science if it bit you in the ass.

"No one has adequately answered how the first protein formed out of inorganic matter - or how the inorganic matter originally emerged. "

Good thing too since evolution doesn't cover that.

5/24/2009 12:41:25 PM

wackadoodle

"If they had any real science to talk about, why are they not posting that? No one has adequately answered how the first protein formed out of inorganic matter - or how the inorganic matter originally emerged. "

BECAUSE YOU FUCKING BAN THEM FOR DISAGREEING WITH YOU!

5/24/2009 12:43:13 PM

Paschal Wagner

If they had any real science to talk about, why are they not posting that?

We do, but then you reply:

I wouldn't be moved a bit even if some alleged link were found.

So yeah.

5/24/2009 12:43:21 PM

A Friend

Basically "Waah, you guyz r picking on us for our ridiculous beliefs. Waah waah. Devilutionism iz a religion too!"

You could have saved a lot of time by writing that instead you doucheturd.

5/24/2009 12:44:52 PM

Jedi Knight

Prove or give sufficient evidence that the soul exists.

5/24/2009 12:46:48 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Mirror much? If anything has been worn thin, it is religion in the face of advancing scientific knowledge, easily evidenced by the amount of squirming you guys do to find alternative meanings for long-held tenets whose traditional interpretations have been debunked by recent scientific advancements (and quietly forgetting those that cannot effectively be reinterpreted - take a look at some of the bible's notions of medical treatment some time). Evolution by means of natural selection hasn't worn thin; it's supported, with remarkably little improvement or modification from its initial form, by a constantly increasing mass of evidence, not least the landmark development of genetics.

It's been said that the outcome of the battle between religion and science was effectively lost for the theists when they started building churches with lightning rods on them. Basically true but, unfortunately, in much the same way as WW1 was lost for Germany after the failure of the Schlieffen Plan.

5/24/2009 12:46:55 PM

WTF?! meh

You know why creatards like to exclaim that the ToE(or in tardspeak "darwinism") is a religion? Because they know all the negative things associated with religion. If the ToE is a religion then(they hope) people will scoff at it like they do at zombiejewism or any other batshit religion.

5/24/2009 12:51:43 PM

Efrain

Is it just me, or is anyone else thinking this is a poe, due simply to the mentioning of the Epic of Gilgamesh?

5/24/2009 12:56:38 PM

WMDKitty

The most unique aspect of "humanity" is certainly the capacity for self-destruction, and the wanton slaughter of others of your own kind over trivial differences such as skin color, language, or who has the "right" god. If you *had* souls, you'd realize that this is evil, and humans are fucking bastards.

(Edited for a spelling error.)

5/24/2009 1:08:46 PM



"True security in belief does not come in irrational words and deeds......by folks who would dare to disagree with them"

If your faith in God's creation was as strong as it you say it is, you would be able to discuss rationally and accept the mountains of evidence of the long process He might have used to bring it about (as the majority of people in all mainstream religions do), instead of sticking your head in the sand when facts are presented to you and rejecting them in favor of a book written over 1600 years ago by scientifically ignorant MEN who never intended the six-day creation story to be taken literally in the first place.

That's what scientists do everyday: listen to each other's findings, disagree, and debate in order to get to the facts. If there were ANY actual "evidence" for a six-day creation, the scientific community would not be afraid to look at it the way you're afraid to look at science.

Scientists have found evidence of an actual huge REGIONAL flood that occurred thousands of years ago, to which some think the Biblical fable about the flood quite possibly refers, but I'm sure you're covering your ears, singing "Lalalalala", right now.....

5/24/2009 1:23:55 PM

Tykittää

The most unique aspect of humanity is the ability to reason, yet for some reason you've chosen to ignore that ability.

5/24/2009 1:34:01 PM

CatAnon

"I want evidence! What? You have some?! LALALALALALALALA-not listening-LALaLALALA!"

There, I fixed your spelling for you.

5/24/2009 1:49:51 PM

EvoPagan

Souls are not unique to humanity. Trust me, I know this for a fact.

All your other jibber-jabber is bullshit too.

5/24/2009 1:50:49 PM

atrasicarius


5/24/2009 1:54:01 PM

Papabear

"The hateful emotion and blatant bigotry directed at those who believe in God's creation by those who cling to a worn-thin theory of Darwinism only reveal how weak their position is and how much even they sense this."

Specifically, what is "worn-thin" in the ToE and why do the biblical creation stories not qualify as "worn-thin?"

"If they had any real science to talk about, why are they not posting that?"

Are you tuned in to the same program the rest of us are watching? It is the creationist position which is devoid of scientific support. Try to keep up with the class.

"Genuine scientific inquiry is shut down by the same people who attack Christians for believing the evidence of creation revealing the truth of God's Word."

The "evidence of creation revealing the truth of God's Word" is not actual, credible evidence. Those who accept the Bible's creation stories as evidence are not practicing science.

"The most unique aspect of humanity is the soul."

One of the most annoying aspects of religious persons is their need to proclaim the existence of the "human soul" when there is no evidence supporting such an assertion.

5/24/2009 1:57:42 PM

szena

If plenty of odd creatures were destroyed in the flood, Noah didn't do his job.

5/24/2009 1:57:53 PM

Horsefeathers

"The hateful emotion and blatant bigotry directed at those who believe in God's creation by those who cling to a worn-thin theory of Darwinism only reveal how weak their position is and how much even they sense this."

Yeah, yeah. Heard it all before.

"True security in belief does not result in irrational words and deeds, such as those posted here and elsewhere by folks outraged that someone would dare to disagree with them."

Belief has absolutely, completely and entirely nothing what-so-ever to do with evolution. You either accept that it describes a natural phenomenon in a reasonably accurate manner given the available evidence or you stick your fingers in your ears and bury your head in 3,000 year old mythology.

"Their "science" is actually a religion."

I'd like you to look up the definition of religion and tell me, point by point, how science fits such a definition.

"If they had any real science to talk about, why are they not posting that?"

Because it would be like describing quantum physics to a cockroach. You guys don't have the first fucking clue to even begin discussing it with you so we have to resort to "See Spot Run" type articles, which you still don't fucking understand.

"No one has adequately answered how the first protein formed out of inorganic matter - or how the inorganic matter originally emerged."

First of all, yes they have. It may not be adequate to you but, then again, you're not all that important nor are you qualified to make such comments. And that's not even mentioning that this doesn't have a damned thing to do with evolution.

Two, the origin of inorganic matter has fuck all to do with anything being discussed. This is biology we're talking about, not inorganic chemistry.

"Genuine scientific inquiry is shut down by the same people who attack Christians for believing the evidence of creation revealing the truth of God's Word."

Genuine scientific inquiry doesn't begin by assuming you have all of the answers already and then trying to find evidence to support it while ignoring the mountains of evidence that say you're full of shit.

"I wouldn't be moved a bit even if some alleged link were found."

If one were found? Where the hell have you been for the last 150 fucking years? Everything is a "transitional" form you jackass. They've been digging them out of the ground for thousands of years and cataloging them for almost 200.

"There were plenty of odd creatures destroyed in the Flood,"

The Flood™ never happened. If you think it did, prove it. Provide some evidence. It was Christian geologists who disproved the damned thing.

"which is referenced in ancient cultures around the world and by the oldest written communication: The Epic of Gilgamesh."

Gilgamesh isn't a "written communication", it's a poem. Oral folklore you nit, not a fucking letter to Aunt Martha.

And there's a very good reason most cultures have flood stories: water happens to be very important to human survival. Given that, people tended to live, get this, near fucking water. Lakes and rivers have a habit of flooding. Ever heard of the Nile? A few thousand years ago people didn't travel like they do now. To them, the entire world consisted of a few dozen square miles. If a major flood happened it would, indeed, appear that the entire world had "flooded".

5/24/2009 2:20:38 PM

Dr. Novakaine

"They don't post any real evidence by my constantly-increasing and unachievable standard so they must be lying! But if they did post real evidence I wouldn't believe them anyway!" Yeah, is it any surprise they've stopped trying to reason with you?

I know it's a mean thing to say but is there any chance the Rapture Ready folks are planning to do anything to hurry themselves along? Maybe if they're gone reasonable Christians can take over and actually do something good for themselves and others.

5/24/2009 2:30:10 PM

freako104

" Their "science" is actually a religion.
"


First religion without a deity or dogma. And labelling it a religion does not mean it will fall down.



5/24/2009 2:50:40 PM

michael1384

Isn't the flood a Babylonian myth?

5/24/2009 2:53:23 PM

David B.

"No one has adequately answered how the first protein formed out of inorganic matter"

Er, Miller, Urey, Orgel, and Ponnamperuma would like a word...

"or how the inorganic matter originally emerged."

...as would Alpher, Bethe, Gamov, Hoyle, Burbidge, Fowler, Penzias and Wilson.

5/24/2009 3:25:06 PM

HoJuSimpson

Sometimes I like to think these people are extremely elaborate trolls.

5/24/2009 3:25:30 PM

Marc

The hateful emotion and blatant bigotry directed at those who believe in God's creation by those who cling to a worn-thin theory of Darwinism only reveal how weak their position is and how much even they sense this.

Actually, the "hateful emotion and "blatant bigotry" you sense is more frustration at the inability of certain people to accept evidence in the face of their beliefs, and their inability to stop trying to force those inaccurate beliefs on the rest of the world. Get it straight, the vast majority of people don't care what you believe! If you want to believe that the world was created by a supernatural entity in six literal days, that's your right. We just don't want you to try to push that belief on those of us who would rather learn the truth.

If they had any real science to talk about, why are they not posting that?

They have, and they do. If you would read something other than your Bible (like, say, a Scientific Journal), you would know this. You're like the person who says he doesn't believe sunlight because he's never left his dark room.

Genuine scientific inquiry is shut down by the same people who attack Christians for believing the evidence of creation revealing the truth of God's Word.

Do you understand what "genuine scientific inquiry" means? It means that you look at the evidence before you and form a hypothesis based on that evidence. It means that you're not afraid to have your previously held opinions changed on the face of new data.

I wouldn't be moved a bit even if some alleged link were found.

And this right here proves that you don't care about "genuine scientific evidence." You've buried your head in the sand and are clinging hard to your outdated ideas. Until you are willing to open your mind to the idea that other people might be right and you might be wrong, there is nothing we can do to help you.

5/24/2009 3:27:44 PM

KatAutumn

Hold up a minute. Believing in something that has been evidenced by centuries of scientific research is clinging to a "weak position" and yet "God said it, I believe it and that settles it" is somehow superior to the former view?

5/24/2009 3:47:47 PM
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