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I know many judges and lawyers will fight against Christian Ed in public schools but many judges and lwayers also fought against integration and supported racial segregation and slavery... It's a matter of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion in government and education.

john crawford, Christian Forums 8 Comments [2/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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J.T.

Shoving your religion down the throats of children who didn't ask for it isn't freedom of religion, it's taking away others' freedom of religion.

1/4/2009 4:02:28 AM

Canadiest

Back when judges were using religious principles to form their decisions. Weird isn't it? The more religious a goverment is the more horrible and unfair it is.

How is wasting my childs school time in supernatural bullshit a freedom? You already have churchs for that, you've seen them, the tall inpractical look-at-me-Im-a-tower-to-heaven you lot built to your God.
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1/4/2009 3:46:06 PM

szaleniec

"I know many judges and lawyers will fight against Christian Ed in public schools but many judges and lwayers also fought against integration and supported racial segregation and slavery..."

Yes, most of whom were on your side.

1/4/2009 3:57:12 PM



BOTH segregation in education and mandatory classroom prayer/Bible study were outlawed between 1955-1965. Yes, the fifties were that bad.

9/19/2011 1:03:39 AM

snowjohnson

Listen moron, If you want to intergrate xtian ed you also have to include islam, buddhism and scientology among many others. That is how america works, if you don't love it leave it.

9/19/2011 2:11:43 AM

N. De Plume

Yeah, the reasons those judges and lawyers that supported segregation lost was because it was unconstitutional.

Just like government endorsement of any religion.

9/19/2011 6:35:22 AM

Swede

Religion Education is a good idea; it's always good to know a little about all the major religions, so that you can treat other people with respect, and won't commit any grave faux pas.

No, it's a matter of Separation of Church and State. People in government and education have the right to belong to whatever religion they want (or no religion at all), but they don't have the right to push any religion onto others through their professional position.

Freedom of speech and freedom of religion are personal things, concerning your private life.
When you're at work, you represent your employer.

9/19/2011 6:50:58 AM

Anon-e-moose

"I know many judges and lawyers will fight against Christian Ed in public schools but many judges and lwayers also fought against integration and supported racial segregation and slavery... It's a matter of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion in government and education."

I know just one judge who did more to fight for the cause of Atheist Ed in public schools in the US than even we Atheists could ever have done in decades of campaigning, lobbying, protesting etc.

I'm sure the honourable Judge John E. Jones III took into account the matter of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion in government and education when it came to his decision:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District#Decision

...not.

Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for 2000: when one George Dumbya Bush was elected by the likes of you, crawford. Now forward things a little to 2002, when the same George Dumbya Bush personally appointed one John E. Jones III to the Federal Bench. Finally to three years later, on that day in late 2005, in the above court case. Yes, that's right.

A Christian Conservative - like you, jo(a)n crawford - has fought for we Atheists.

It's a matter of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom from religion in government and education.

Just ask the - obviously - expert in Constitutional Law, the Conservative Christian Judge John E. Jones III. Who you helped in his appointment, and therefore you are ultimately responsible for fighting against Christian Ed in public schools. >:D

9/19/2011 7:54:38 AM
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