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Our son was in boy scouts for a little over one year.. During the second year, December rolled around and the parents starting planning a party.. We would exchange presents, eat good stuff and play games.. We offered to have the "Christmas party" at our house and provide all the food... The leader said it would have to be called a "Gift Exchange" and nothing more.. hmmm.. We argued that if it was to be at our house, it would be a Christmas Party.

The next day, an email was sent out and the "Gift Exchange" was to be held at the Leader's house. Our son decided to quit that night.. he didn't understand why it couldn't be called a "Christmas Party" ...he was 8 at the time. None of the boys in our troops came from non-christian families so it didn't make sense to us either.

Boy Scouts are supposed to open to ALL religions.. even Christianity. That was our argument to the Leader, but it fell on deaf ears. Two other boys dropped out also.

WaitinginTexas, RR 50 Comments [5/26/2009 10:21:17 AM]
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Equalist

"Boy Scouts are supposed to open to ALL religions.. even Christianity. That was our argument to the Leader, but it fell on deaf ears. Two other boys dropped out also."

Part of being open to all religions is accepting a generic name for a party instead of using one specific to your religion by default. Don't even try and play like you wouldn't have gotten your panties all in a bunch if they'd called it a "Winter Solstice Party".

5/26/2009 10:24:49 AM

Higgs Boson

"None of the boys in our troops came from non-christian families" - if this is true, then I am on WaitinginTexas' side. There's no reason to pretend something is something different from what it is, especially when nobody in the group is from a different religion.

5/26/2009 10:31:27 AM

Mudak

So you offered to hold the party at your house without first knowing whether or not the leader wanted you to, and you're wondering why it didn't happen? Great! I'm glad you offered to host the party, but if you offered it without knowing whether or not there was a need for someone to act as host (which obviously there wasn't, otherwise the leader wouldn't have hosted the party in the first place)?

For once the Boy Scouts did the right thing. Too bad they still will kick you out if you're an atheist or gay.

5/26/2009 10:31:57 AM

EvoPagan

I agree that political correctness is often carried too far. I wouldn't have any problem with my child attending a Christmas party. But I suspect that the actual issue here is that this person is known to be a fanatic and the scout leader didn't want the kids to be subjected to prosletyzing under the guise of a party.

5/26/2009 10:36:26 AM

JSS

First of all, here's a little tip: When you say an organization is open to all religions as long as they convert to your specific religion, then said organization is in fact NOT open to all religions.

Secondly, why are you getting so heated about this? So what? They called it a Gift Exchange. There are much more important problems. If I were an athiest and someone said "Merry Christmas" to me it wouldn't bother me. It's the thought that counts.

5/26/2009 10:42:00 AM

Clown

How did I know the post was from Rapture Ready before I read half of it? Misteries of life...

5/26/2009 10:43:21 AM

Ken

I don't know much about Boy Scouts, but was the leader just following the group guidelines and afraid of getting in trouble?

And what is meant by "even Christianity?" Christianity is the majority religion in this country

5/26/2009 10:43:26 AM



@Mudak: They won't kick you out for being atheist if they don't know you are until AFTER you get your Eagle. ;)

I know this from personal experience.

5/26/2009 10:46:28 AM

aaa

Huh?

5/26/2009 10:53:57 AM

Rat of Steel

"Boy Scouts are supposed to open to ALL religions.. even Christianity."

Well, at least you've admitted that Christianity is a religion. *smiles and nods* 2 out of 10 for that, at least.

5/26/2009 11:00:22 AM

atrasicarius

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5/26/2009 11:06:36 AM

Tindalos

"Our son decided to quit that night.. he didn't understand why it couldn't be called a "Christmas Party" ...he was 8 at the time."

I smell BS. Your 8 y/o son wouldn't have cared but YOU obviously did.

You make it sound that it was offensive because it wasn't religious - "open to ALL". So, you would have been perfectly all right with a Kwanza Kickoff party or a Winter Solstice Shebang?

Get real - typical fundie 'My Way or the Highway' mentality. I'm sure your 8 y/o son really loved you for that.

5/26/2009 11:14:36 AM

Papabear

"Boy Scouts are supposed to open to ALL religions.. even Christianity."

It IS open to all (except us atheists.)

5/26/2009 11:16:42 AM

Allegory for Jesus

Wow. How petty can you get? Freaking out because things pertinent to your religion aren't specifically labeled as such? Sort of like how they won't listen to music unless it is specifically "Christian music". Weird that they are so insecure that they need to be constantly reaffirmed with "Christian" being stamped on everything like a seal of approval from Jesus himself.

5/26/2009 11:17:28 AM

Lucilius

Henry Ford's famous line was that he'd sell Model Ts in any color, so long as it was black. WaitinginTexas wants the Boy Scouts to be open to any religion so long as it's his/her favorite version of Christianity.

5/26/2009 11:21:52 AM

Mister Spak

"Boy Scouts are supposed to open to ALL religions.. even Christianity. "

And you think Jews and Muslims and Atheists (yes you retards claim atheism is a religion so for the purpose of this post we'll assume it is) are going to send their children to a celebration of a foreign religion?

5/26/2009 11:28:26 AM

Cabraxas

I'm smelling BS here. The kid was 8 when he left because of the party,,,, and he'd been a member for 'a little over a year'. Strange, since the minimum age restriction for Boy Scouts in the USA is 11!

5/26/2009 11:40:13 AM

Pule Thamex

Interesting that the boys were so clued-in at 8 years old.

I wonder if they will will be able to tell if the predicted persecution of the Rapture Ready site by the President of the USA, Barack Obama, has started yet?

I wonder when they think the whooshfest is going to be? Will they be disappointed when it doesn't happen?

Enjoy your parties and make sure they are referred to in the correct manner. As the party's terminology is one of the most dramatic and important crisis-inducing questions you will likely ever have to deal with. Don't be too surprised to see a major Hollywood blockbuster on the subject soon. Of course, I am using the Rapture Ready meaning of soon in that last sentence.

5/26/2009 11:52:05 AM

Old Viking

If the lad was eight he wasn't in the Boy Scouts. If he was a member of an all-Christian group of some sort, and "Christmas Party" seemed too assertive, it was political correctness run amok.

5/26/2009 11:57:38 AM

Thinking Allowed

Boy Scouts are supposed to open to ALL religions.. even Christianity. That was our argument to the Leader, but it fell on deaf ears. Two other boys dropped out also.

Thus the reason it's called "gift exchange".

5/26/2009 12:06:30 PM

tracer

"even" Christianity?

You DO realize that it was the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints that pushed the Boy Scouts into its current "no atheists allowed" stance, right?


Of course, you probably don't think Mormons count as Christians anyway.

5/26/2009 12:17:13 PM

tracer

@ Cabraxas :

Cub Scouts can be younger.

5/26/2009 12:18:18 PM

Incognito

"Boy Scouts are supposed to open to ALL religions.. even Christianity."

Last i checked

"That was our argument to the Leader, but it fell on deaf ears."

Or maybe you just werent listening when he tried to explain that because it is open to all religions, a party cant be named after a particular one.


I dont get why they cant just officially name it a "gift exchange", but call it a christmas party anyway. there must be something else at work here. Hell, i still call holiday parties aat school christmas parties.


5/26/2009 12:22:55 PM

ausador

As usual you confuse a program being open to all religions to mean that they must endorse yours specifically. Just as you can't understand the seperation of church and state in the 1st Amendment. This is just a microcosm of the same old argument that many Christians seem incapable of understanding for some reason.

5/26/2009 12:31:46 PM

jsonitsac

Which is of course why the BSA banned atheists from joining. Oh wait.

5/26/2009 12:32:54 PM
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