Where does ANY government get off telling the church (ANY church) that they MUST accept gay and homosexual youth workers??????? This is looking for trouble not just having that sin in the church but it increases the chances of pedaphilia as well!!! (rant emoticon)
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@corey: Actually, insofar as the government has an interest in ensuring the well-being of its whole citizenry, it has the right to tell employers not to discriminate on bases that are unrelated to job performance. So while being a quadriplegic might close construction jobs to you, being gay/black/female shouldn't close any jobs for which you are otherwise qualified to you.
Alright, fine, you don't have to accept homosexual youth workers, but in exchange you don't get to vote for laws in the country based on religious basis.
Thanks for giving us gay marriage.
Anti-discriminatory laws? Ultimately, the Constitution?
Oh, and fuck that silly sin and pedophilia shit!
Discriminating against people for something that is out of their control -- sexual orientation, disability, hair color, race -- is illegal, and churches ought to be held to the same standards as every other place of business.
Oh, and for the gazillionth time -- HOMOSEXUALITY =/= PEDOPHILIA!
ausador <<< wrote this but forgot to post his name the silly twit. ;)
accept gay and homosexual youth workers
Hey, that reminds of this picture I saw once...
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@Trillian: What the fundies are omitting (as usual) is the little fact that the churches affected by this law are enjoying the official support of the British government.
If the Church of England wants to be he official state church of England and continue to leech on society, then it should better learn to swallow whatever the government puts on its platter.
*pffft* Start prosecuting all the pedophiles already existing among your own stinking clergy to the fullest extent of man's law, instead of shuffling them around between churches while playing Three Wise Monkeys (y'know, See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil). Then, and ONLY THEN , will you have any room to talk about possible pedophiles intruding from elsewhere.
I would love to see someone not hired because they were straight...lol
But get real - if you are so worried about pedophiles, why don't require that anyone working as a pastor, priest, preacher, vicar, youth minister, et al - be required to submit to chemical castration for their length of employment in such a position.
Then, and only then, start crying about pedophiles from outside your cult
Good point LDM.
Also, we're not saying that they have to accept them in church, just that outside of church, they have no say in the matter.
It's in the UK, it's the state church, so there is no seperation of church and state there. Also, they're just youth workers. They're just trying to help out people who hate them.
This is looking for trouble not just having that sin in the church but it increases the chances of pedaphilia as well!!!
Wait, I thought that was the priests.
And I'm still waiting for that valid source...
Yeah, where DO they get off telling them that?
Oh wait, they don't do that.
Frankly, I have no problem with a church making their hiring decisions on the basis of religious grounds. That really does fall under the separation of church and state.
However, any non-church should be prevented from making such discrimination.
By the way, I assume you will also be checking up on your employees to make sure they aren't eating shrimp? Or wearing clothing of two kinds of fiber woven together? Or hiring women to teach males? You will be checking to make sure the males have a full set of testicles? If your employees have children, make sure they take them to the gates of the city and stone them if they are disobedient.
If you're going to make hiring decisions based on your book, make sure you use the whole book, and don't cherry-pick the parts you want to use.
Well then, your church doesn't need to take in the volunteer workers, does it.
I thought the volunteers weren't allowed to be doing anything for churches.
Well you wouldn't have this problem if you weren't constantly trying to tear down the wall of separation of church & state. It will work both ways, with not only the church telling the state what to do, but the state telling the church what to do as well.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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