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here are certain times that it’s right to KILL a baby? Are you CRAZY??? Have you never herd of adoption you sick BITCH!! The birth of God’s children is NOT a choice, they are real people, and here is an example maybe people like you will understand. In the Lacy Peterson’s murder she was pregnant at the time of her murder, and Scott Peterson was charged with DOUBLE homicide…one charge of murder for Lacy and one charge of murder for the baby in her womb…..

Now on the other hand if you were to become pregnant, and after about 6 months you decided you didn’t want the baby in your womb, you would just have an abortion, and kill the baby, and then you would call it CHOICE!! So you tell me what the hell is the difference? BOTH times the baby was MURDERED..

So do NOT EVER come to my blog and tell me and others that under certain circumstances it’s right to KILL one of God’s children…

Papa Mike, Papa Mike's Blog 57 Comments [5/28/2009 10:10:51 AM]
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Kitourahime

Under certain circumstances, it's right to "kill" one of God's children.

5/26/2009 3:50:25 AM

Doctor Whom

So do NOT EVER come to my blog and tell me and others that under certain circumstances it’s right to KILL one of God’s children…

outside of the many circumstances in which God commands us to do so.

5/28/2009 10:22:11 AM

Ken

Translation: The idea that my SEED could be REMOVED from my CUMCATCHER without my APPROVAL greatly OFFENDS ME!

Have you never heard of the fact that some women have severe- even deadly- complications with pregnancy, nutjob?

5/28/2009 10:31:41 AM

Lucilius

... Unless, of course, they're Amalekites, or live in Jericho, or ....

5/28/2009 10:34:08 AM

Xaivius

1) don't like comments? Don't have comments section, idiot.

2) Killing god's children? hrm. Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Abraham's son. Examples where you are directly instructed by the "word of god" to kill children. cue babble thumping

5/28/2009 10:34:26 AM

Grigadil

Let me guess: "god's children" all have white parents.

5/28/2009 10:35:07 AM

JohnTheAtheist

I WILL tolerate NO difference of OPINION and I will ALSO randomly CAPITALIZE my words to show HOW angry you have MADE me.

5/28/2009 10:35:23 AM

Dexter

This is your god:


The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children."
(Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)


If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted.
(Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)


Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.
(Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)


"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."
(Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)



Thank god I'm an atheist...

5/28/2009 10:36:17 AM

David B.

"Have you never herd of adoption"

Some pregnancies won't make it as far as anything adoptable before both the foetus and the mother are dead. Some pregnancies produce a child who is destined for a very short and painful life. And some pregnancies lead to the birth of the kind of child your kind would no doubt turn your nose up at if offered for adoption.

Yes, sometimes the least amount of suffering, and the least loss of life, may come from having an abortion. Only religion, with its "victim souls" and dubious moral absolutes seeks to inflict suffering to placate the sensibilities of a god they believe would disapprove.

And isn't it funny how often the sensibilities of those individuals' gods are perfectly aligned with those persons' own likes and dislikes?

5/28/2009 10:37:36 AM

The L

If God didn't want ANY babies to die unborn, miscarriages wouldn't exist, nor would they happen as often as they do.

There is a difference between causing a pregnant woman to lose the baby she wants and is eager to meet face-to-face and nurture as a mother should, and agreeing to have a woman get rid of a fetus she DOESN'T WANT. I think most abortions are wrong, and even I recognize that those two situations are NOT the same!

5/28/2009 10:41:17 AM

Clown

So, by your logic, it's ok to "kill" at least two of God's children as alternative? I mean, you ARE talking about those pregnancies where mother is at risk, right Mike? So, instead of enabling the survival of mother and all of hers potential offspring, you choose to kill them both. Good for you, Papa Smurf.

5/28/2009 10:41:31 AM

GigaGuess

here are certain times that it’s right to KILL a baby? Are you CRAZY???
Certainly not. There's never a right time to kill a baby. There are times, though, that preventing a pregnancy from coming to term is the best option.

Have you never herd of adoption you sick BITCH!!
Here's your adoption papers. How many can I sign you up for?

The birth of God’s children is NOT a choice, they are real people, and here is an example maybe people like you will understand.
Oh boy...

In the Lacy Peterson’s murder she was pregnant at the time of her murder, and Scott Peterson was charged with DOUBLE homicide…one charge of murder for Lacy and one charge of murder for the baby in her womb…..
Which in my opinion was a travesty of justice, and an appeal to emotion, pure and simple. If he killed her, he should do the time, for sure. but double homicide because she was pregnant? Come on...

Now on the other hand if you were to become pregnant, and after about 6 months you decided you didn’t want the baby in your womb, you would just have an abortion, and kill the baby, and then you would call it CHOICE!!
Personally, I'd call it illegal, because unless I'm mistaken, third trimester abortions are illegal without sound medical reason. Most people decide on whether or not they want an abortion early on in the first trimester, where it's as much murder as getting rid of a tapeworm, if I must be frank.

So you tell me what the hell is the difference? BOTH times the baby was MURDERED..
No, both cases are sensationalized appeals to emotion, designed to make the person you're attacking seem like an utterly reprehensible monster.

So do NOT EVER come to my blog and tell me and others that under certain circumstances it’s right to KILL one of God’s children…
Until they're out of the womb...then you guys seem to not care less what happens to them.

5/28/2009 10:53:18 AM

Mister Spak

"one charge of murder for Lacy and one charge of murder for the baby in her womb….. "

That only proves that fundies have too much influence on society, because they wrote their superstition into American law.

5/28/2009 11:18:29 AM

Old Viking

There is no baby until after birth.

God God offed babies and children frequently, often because he was in a peevish mood.

5/28/2009 11:22:44 AM

tracer

If they're "God's children," then HE can pay the damn Child Support.

5/28/2009 11:22:51 AM



So do NOT EVER come to my blog and tell me

Why, what would happen to us if we did? Tosser.

5/28/2009 11:44:39 AM

dpareja

@GigaGuess: Arguably charges of double homicide for killing pregnant women are more than just appeals to emotion. One homicide is for killing the woman. The other is recognition of the fact that one person has the right to decide whether to carry the fetus to term: the pregnant woman. By killing her while she was pregnant, Lacy Peterson's murderer robbed her of that choice.

Whether charges of homicide are justified for the removal of the choice is debatable, but that removal should not be allowed to go totally unpunished.

5/28/2009 11:44:50 AM

Mudak

Technically, Scott Peterson should not have been charged with a double homicide, because the law that made the murder of a pregnant woman the equivalent of two murders passed after the crime was committed, so the crime of killing Laci should've been grandfathered in from before the law. (You know, ex post facto laws...)

With all of the children who are in orphanages, waiting for an adoption that may never happen, is it really a responsible thing to add to those kids. Or, in other words, Papa Mike, how many of those children are you willing to adopt?

5/28/2009 11:44:58 AM

aaa

I bet five bucks this guy is for the death penalty.

5/28/2009 11:45:01 AM

emau99

[In the Lacy Peterson’s murder she was pregnant at the time of her murder, and Scott Peterson was charged with DOUBLE homicide…]

Did Lacy Peterson consent to an abortion? No?

Besides, it's a bad idea to cite legal cases examples of morality. (OJ Simpson, anyone)?

[So do NOT EVER come to my blog and tell me and others that under certain circumstances it’s right to KILL one of God’s children…]

So, Papa Mike, what are your thoughts on anti-abortion violence? Is it justified, or not?

5/28/2009 11:59:56 AM

A Friend

And I bet this pro lifer could give a shit less about the civilians who have died due to collateral damage in Iraq and Afghanistan.

5/28/2009 12:10:37 PM

Papabear

"[T]here are certain times that it’s right to KILL a baby? Are you CRAZY???"

But then, an embryo or blastocyst isn't a baby.


"So do NOT EVER come to my blog and tell me and others that under certain circumstances it’s right to KILL one of God’s children…"

Well, not until they're born anyway.

5/28/2009 12:21:40 PM

Allegory for Jesus

"here are certain times that it’s right to KILL a baby? Are you CRAZY???"

Somebody's never seen a little documentary called "Rosemary's Baby". Or heard of the variety of problems that infants can be born with in which euthanasia (or "KILL[ing]", if you prefer) is preferable for any combination of reasons.

"n the Lacy Peterson’s murder she was pregnant at the time of her murder, and Scott Peterson was charged with DOUBLE homicide…one charge of murder for Lacy and one charge of murder for the baby in her womb….."

...because she would have brought the baby to term. Now, I personally don't think it makes sense either, in light of the fact that women who miscarry due to their own actions (like piledriving a bag of syringes, or something) would not be convicted for negligent homicide. But, I guess they have to some measure to punish people who result in the death of the baby against the will of the mother. Not exactly akin to murder, but it's a bit above assault or property damage as well.

"So do NOT EVER come to my blog and tell me and others that under certain circumstances it’s right to KILL one of God’s children…"

Oh, now he is just begging to be trolled...



5/28/2009 12:22:26 PM

jenovatrix

If you found you were pregnant, and waited SIX MONTHS to decide whether or not you wanted it...well, you've got more than one problem to worry about.

As far as Scott Peterson, I think the double homicide charges were justified. Lacy wanted the child, and it was far enough along to be viable. If it wouldn't be legal for her to abort it, he shouldn't get off scot-free for killing it.

5/28/2009 12:22:42 PM



So do NOT EVER come to my blog and tell me and others that under certain circumstances it’s right to KILL one of God’s children…
I mean, it's not like God orders the massacre of infants and children or the evisceration of pregnant women, or anything. Oh, wait, HE DOES.

5/28/2009 12:33:25 PM
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