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It’s likely even Jesus would have OK’d water boarding if it would have saved his Mom. He would’ve done the same to save his Dad, or any one of His disciples. For that matter, He even died to save all humans.


roetenks, Red State 72 Comments [5/26/2009 10:22:30 AM]
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Hazor

So.. WWJD, huh? What about all that turn the other cheek, love your neighbor stuff?

Sometimes I wonder if they say these things without actually knowing what waterboarding is, and just assume what they've heard from fellows of their viewpoint is obviously factual and unarguable. I really hope that's the case.

5/25/2009 10:56:23 AM

Mudak

People like roetenks (1) don't know what waterboarding is, and (2) don't know what Jesus taught.

5/26/2009 10:26:32 AM

Funnyguts

This is yet another reason why the sacrifice story is actually far more disturbing than uplifting or whatever it's supposed to be.

5/26/2009 10:28:21 AM

EvoPagan

Um are you talking about some Mexican guy named Jesus? Cuz the one in the bible never gave ANY impression that he would approve any such thing.

5/26/2009 10:30:15 AM

Grigadil

Jesus was never that paranoid. Neither was his mom.

5/26/2009 10:34:18 AM

observiNG

Yup, Jesus died for us, and that gives us the moral right to torture and kill anyone we damn well please. Way to go.

And also, waterboarding to save the almighty, everlasting god? WTF kind of bizarre reality does this person live in? I think my brain is about to implode at his/her logic.

Yup, just did. (runs off to the nearest body shop for a new brain)

5/26/2009 10:36:34 AM

Ken

Yes, he gave up his own life, not the lives of others. See the difference?

5/26/2009 10:37:19 AM

Doctor Fishcake

WWJWB?

5/26/2009 10:39:36 AM

Night Jaguar

Who would Jesus torture?

5/26/2009 10:45:42 AM



Jesus may have ok'd waterboarding for HIMSELF, but I don't think he'd want it done to anybody else. Stop being an idiot.

5/26/2009 10:48:15 AM

GigaGuess

So...you jump from his self-sacrifice to he'd harm others. Huh?

5/26/2009 10:50:29 AM

El Guapo

Couldn't Jesus perform miracles and shit? Like he could cast a Zone of Truth spell (a simple Cleric level 2 incantation), which would be more effective than waterboarding.

5/26/2009 10:54:51 AM

atrasicarius

Protip: There's a big difference between letting yourself be tortured and torturing someone else.

5/26/2009 11:04:28 AM

Allegory for Jesus

WWJD? Fuck people up hardcore to make them talk, in the name of protecting his family. Jesus: now with all the morality of a mafia member.

5/26/2009 11:08:35 AM

Papabear

Jesus (omnipotent, omniscient God) would have tortured someone (ordinary, run-of-the-mill bloke) to save his father (omnipotent, omniscient God) from exactly what?

5/26/2009 11:11:13 AM

Tindalos

What are you guys talking about? Jebus threatens torture all the time. "You got free will. Beleive in me or spend eternity roasting in a lake fire" - if that isn't a thrat of torture then I don't know what is.

The same Jebus who wanted his enemies brought before him and slain? The same Jebus who should have been stoned long before he was crucified for disrespecting his parents?

Jebus didn't give a crap about mary, Jojo or anyoneone else - just him & his boys.

5/26/2009 11:18:56 AM

Mister Spak

In a previous funde post defending torture, my comment was "who would Jesus waterboard?" Then roetenks comes along and poes me.

5/26/2009 11:22:15 AM

Swedish Pagan

Jesus washed the feets of his disciples, he fed people who were hungry, he said you should turn the other cheek if someone slaps you, that you should treat others as you want to be treated. And never wanted anything in return.

I don't think a man of that kind would condone almost drowning someone to aquire information. Especially not since it is a known fact to not work properly, as people would say almost anything during torture.

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. That is more like Jesus, than waterboarding.

5/26/2009 11:25:31 AM

tracer

By "his Dad", do you mean Joseph, or do you mean the omniscient omnipotent immortal Creator of the Universe?

'cause if Yahweh the Lord of Creation needs saving, he ain't exactly immortal, is he?

5/26/2009 11:26:26 AM

aaa

Sometimes, i wonder if they have actually read about their holy man.

I showed this quote to a friend of mine who is a priest on the Evangelical-Lutheran Church of Finland. He asked me: "Is this guy serious?" I responded: "Yeah, he is." The next moment, he started angrily ranting about how uneducated and hypocritical this man is for about five minutes. I told him to calm down and respond with something witty.

His full response: "I wonder if you have the balls to die for everybody's sins, Pontius Pilate."

5/26/2009 11:28:11 AM

Dio Fa

If Jesus was God (and simultaneously the Son of God), then don't you think he would just know the answers in advance?

Now the Old Testament God is a different story. He would approve waterboarding the guy, just for shits and giggles. Like Dick Cheney.

5/26/2009 11:38:32 AM



Jesus died for all of us?

a) how the fuck is that supposed to work, and b) according to your story he woke up again after two nights, which doesn't count as dying, in my book.

5/26/2009 11:42:25 AM

Old Viking

Sounds religious to me.

5/26/2009 11:49:24 AM

Thinking Allowed

It’s likely even Jesus would have OK’d water boarding if it would have saved his Mom. He would’ve done the same to save his Dad, or any one of His disciples. For that matter, He even died to save all humans.

This is supposed to justify waterboarding?

5/26/2009 11:54:03 AM

JohnTheAtheist

So you want to be a part of a society that thinks it is ok to deprive people of oxygen so long as it is for a good cause?

5/26/2009 11:58:09 AM
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