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how could they find out the age of the universe when they are not sure if the speed of light was constant during the big bang, how are they sure that at the time of the bang the speed was not 3000 or a million times the speed of light. Some scientists are retarded they think they know things, but they don’t. God created the universe, there was no big bang and God is going to come back to judge it, so get ready and read the Bible and put your trust in Jesus Christ

vanityvideo, Rocketboom 62 Comments [5/27/2009 9:14:49 PM]
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#962025
Frogflayer

And I thought only supersport had problems with the speed of light being a constant.
Now there's another relatively dim bulb in the room.

5/27/2009 9:21:19 PM
#962026
Random Man

vanityvideo is retarded he thinks he knows things, but he doesn’t.

5/27/2009 9:31:17 PM
#962027
ausador

Actually there is a theory that tries to explain the much higher expansion rate of the universe than seems possible given our other comological knowledge. This hypothisis says that as the big bang occured before time, space, matter, and energy became cohesive forces that speeds much higher than Light speed were possible.

I'm doing a truly shitty job of explaining this I know but it is an idea I've only heard briefly explained once. I also can't seem to find the info online right now.

Anyway I'm pretty sure that is what he is talking about, so it isn't as stupid as it sounds. (At least not the faster than light part.)

5/27/2009 9:34:22 PM
#962034
Osiris

The speed of light would have been constant, the rate of time would not have been. But this is irrelevant. So what if light was faster during the Big Bang, the Big Bang happened so fast that you wouldn't have even had time to react to it.

5/27/2009 10:09:05 PM
#962037
Bowen

"...there was no big bang..."

Georges Lemaître disagreed. Look him up. You're in for a real surprise.

5/27/2009 10:11:44 PM
#962039
Bowen

edit

5/27/2009 10:11:53 PM
#962042
A Friend

As I have stated before, your god can't even judge a pissing contest. As for reading the bible, I have. That's probably the number one reason a person becomes an atheist. It's an incoherent shit piece of fiction. If you actually took time to read it instead of being a pastor's parrot you would know. Now have fun with your imaginary zombie jew friend who is also his own dad and sacrificed himself to himself to save you from himself.

5/27/2009 10:20:10 PM
#962043
Evil Pirate Captain Mel

Gawd is going to come back to judge the universe? o.O What did the universe do to piss off gawd? Did it commit adultery or bear false witness against another universe?

Btw, you need to put down the bible and pick up a grammar book. Seriously.

5/27/2009 10:28:58 PM
#962046
aaa

Oh for fucks sake.

5/27/2009 10:34:02 PM
#962057
fundiesRtehlulz

Some scientists are retarded they think they know things, but they don’t.

Say that the next time you need to go to the hospital.

5/27/2009 11:20:25 PM
#962064
Dio Fa

"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."

-Albert Einstein

5/28/2009 12:00:12 AM
#962065
WMDKitty

Ugh. I can't even *begin* to comprehend this.

5/28/2009 12:01:53 AM
#962078


no.

5/28/2009 1:06:41 AM
#962079


no.

5/28/2009 1:09:21 AM
#962080
Thundersqueaks

"Some scientists are retarded they think they know things, but they don’t."

They also smell, and have cooties.

5/28/2009 1:10:20 AM
#962082
LDM

Is God just going to judge the talent part of the universe or the swimsuit competition as well?

5/28/2009 1:12:13 AM
#962084
Wehpudicabok

@Ausador:

That's an interesting theory, but I seriously doubt that it's what this idiot is referring to. As of late, creationists such as Kent Hovind and the folks behind Answers in Genesis have been taking to a modified speed of light to explain the starlight problem--they assert that the speed of light has decreased over time (without any evidence; remember, they're creationists) by itself, without a broader model like the one you're mentioning. It's just bullshit vanityvideo heard Dokter Hovind spew forth and decided that it proves God.

Edit: it seems that AiG no longer subscribes to this theory. Congratulate them; one day they might actually understand evolution.

5/28/2009 1:16:55 AM
#962091
Deep Search

I lol'd at this comment:

The universe being older than what My Bible tells me is not only a lie, it’s also a direct assault on our values and the freedom this country stands for.

I call for the United States to invade outer space immediately.

5/28/2009 1:39:13 AM
#962099
arcturus

They aren't sure if the speed of light was constant because that is still an unproven hypothesis. They are aware that that concept solves some mathematical equations. Then again, I doubt this idiot can do maths. Do you know how to calculate pi? No, you just look it up in the Bible and get 3.

5/28/2009 2:12:46 AM
#962102
Oirish_Martin

Because REAL geniuses make baseless speculations.

Idiot.

5/28/2009 2:20:44 AM
#962107
Pule Thamex

What if the speed of light ever becomes slower than your thought processes vanityvideo, somewhat less than 0 mph? You'll be able to see up your own arse by looking at your head in a mirror and observe images of Pluto inside-out and turning cartwheels in space. Yipee!

I like this comment from the same thread:-

---- Syntox

The universe being older than what My Bible tells me is not only a lie, it’s also a direct assault on our values and the freedom this country stands for.

I call for the United States to invade outer space immediately. ----

Cool.

5/28/2009 2:38:39 AM
#962117
RevDG

obviously if we don't know everything at every point in time, then we can't know anything at all!
fuck off you moron

"Some scientists are retarded they think they know things, but they don’t."
how the hell would you know? you don't know shit

5/28/2009 3:36:39 AM
#962118
BobsOldSocks

"how could they find out the age of the universe when they are not sure if the speed of light was constant during the big bang, how are they sure that at the time of the bang the speed was not 3000 or a million times the speed of light."

There has been speculation by theoretical physicists that the speed of light may have been faster during the hyperinflationary period of the universe, seconds after the Big Bang (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/10/991005114024.htm) but it's my understanding (good possibility that I'm wrong!) that even under the most extreme scenarios the universe would be only milliseconds younger.

"Some scientists are retarded they think they know things, but they don’t."

Listen here, sunny Jim, you wouldn't even know about the speed of light if it wasn't for those "retarded" scientists and neither would you have a computer to disseminate your, ahem, "wisdom" to the wider world. Fundamentalism has helped *no one*, it has discovered nothing, it has explained nothing and the number of lives it has saved amounts to a grand total of bugger all.

"God created the universe,"

Evidence? And no, the bible is *not* evidence.

"there was no big bang"

Liar!

"and God is going to come back to judge it, so get ready and read the Bible and put your trust in Jesus Christ"

The fictitious jebus and his non-existent daddy? Ooh, scary!

5/28/2009 3:58:18 AM
#962119
LabRat

Most scientists are acutely aware of how much they don't know. There's grant money in what they don't know.

5/28/2009 4:06:11 AM
#962122
Mister Spak

Where did god come from?

5/28/2009 4:30:39 AM
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