The only people that go to Mars are people that think man came from a fish or monkey. Like it or not.
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Okay. I read this. Then I read it again. Then just to be sure, I read it a third time. And none of those times was I able to figure out what on earth Robert43 was even trying to say. So I clicked on the link back to the source. Robert43's previous post on the forum was as follows:
Hi, Look at all the money we and others are spending to go to Mars to find nothing. The Bible says nothing about other worlds with people on them. Look at all the billions that have spent on going to Mars and instead it could spent on feeding the poor around the world and giving people medical care around the world. Who is behind spending billions to go to Mars? The Non-believes of God? I could see going to Mars one time but trying over and over and spending money is outrages.
I hope that gives some sort of context to everyone else out there who was completely confused by this. Mind you, I'm still somewhat confused. He does make a good point about spending money on something like sending human beings to Mars -- it takes a lot of money to do so. That money could be used to do other things, like feeding the starving and helping those trapped in the depths of extreme poverty. Had Robert43 left it at that, I'd have respected his argument and agreed with his sense of priorities, as much as a value the space program. However, he seems to think that NASA wants to send people to Mars in order to look for life there. And since the Bible says that there is only life on earth (according to him -- don't ask me where he got that idea), the only people interested in exploring space are atheists.
Even having given the context, I think that there are still a lot of problems with what Robert43 here is saying. For instance:
1.) The goal of sending people to Mars would not be to search for life there. We've sent probes to Mars. We've got Rovers on Mars right now. We've gotten photos of Mars, we've examined the rocks and soil of Mars. If there is any life on Mars right now (which is pretty much accepted to be highly unlikely), it's clearly not very easy to find and not something that a couple of astronauts walking around would find very easily.
2.) We have spent a lot of money on sending things like probes to Mars. I don't think we've spent a lot of money on sending people there, because right now the idea is pretty much unfeasible.
3.) No one is currently going to Mars or has ever gone to Mars, so the "people that go to Mars" don't think anything, because they do not exist.
4.) The Bible fails to mention Australia, the Americas, atoms, the germ theory of disease, and a countless number of other things. Are you going to deny that those exist simply because the Bible doesn't explicitly mention them?
5.) There are Christians involved in things like NASA and SETI.
6.) However, Robert43, you are correct in implying that these people accept the theory of evolution, because they tend to be educated in science and therefore not complete idiots or ignoramuses.
Well, I am with Robert on thinking that sending people to Mars probably isn't such a great idea. (I mean, really, I'd be more impressed with sending people to the moon for a reasonably long term; it's closer, there seems to be the possibility of access to resources which will be important if/when we transition to a fusion-based energy economy, and it would give time to work out the details of a Mars mission in a place where a rescue attempt might be possible should something go wrong.)
Of course, he's full of shit on his reasons ...
So the fact that nobody has ever been to Mars means what, exactly?
Well, I guess you have got it right because nobody with half a brain thinks that evolution means we are descended from monkeys or fish.
1: it's impossible to send a human to mars. you'd have to stay on mars for about a year to wait until mars and the earth are close enough to fly back.
2: the people you're talking about are at least in touch with reality.
Newt Gingrach was using a Moon colony as a campaign issue during the recent Republican canidacy debates. Wait, it get's dumber,,,,
He wanted 18,000 people on the moon by 2020 so they could apply for statehood. No, I'm serious, google it. Newt Gingrach was considered the most educated, scientifically literate and most fiscally aware of all the canidates. Yes, Really!
It's easily the stupidest thing I've ever heard proposed about space or the feasability of colonizination. It's fiscally retarded to boot.
Oh, and it would be a Christian state too, that Moon colony y'know.
Confused?
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