"I don’t believe in western morality, i.e. don’t kill civilians or children, don’t destroy holy sites, don’t fight during holiday seasons, don’t bomb cemeteries, don’t shoot until they shoot first because it is immoral.
The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).
The first Israeli prime minister who declares that he will follow the Old Testament will finally bring peace to the Middle East. ..."
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The one thing I find most offensive about judaism, is the sheer depravity of its fundies.
Fortunately most jews dont share this sort of genocidal insanity. As far as I'm aware, most jews are basicaly decent people. But their fundies scare me.
Kid, you really don't know much about history. Can't you remember what happened in the past?
Don't think that world would let that shit fly. You'd find the USMC with hostile intents in Tel Aviv before you can say "Oy vey iz mir".
Don't all Jews follow the OT? It's the NT that they are not that into. No peace in the Middle East in sight yet, though...
I have never killed anyone, never destroyed any site, never fought on a holiday (oh, maybe as a child), never bombed anything, never shot anything. I have never smoked or done drugs either, and I'm nigh on forty.
What were we talking about?
Eh, the meshugganeh momser calls himself 'God' and demands that his people become the worst neighbors in the world. It's in the book, right there!
Israel: doomed to eternal warfare.
"Don't all Jews follow the OT?"
No...
No we don't. It may be in part because I'm a reform jew, but most of the things we do are more from oral and Talmudic tradition, and not so much directly from the Torah.
Wait, let me get this straight. You don't kill civilians and you don't destroy holy sites. Instead, you kill everything that moves and destroy holy sites.
Ah, ok, i get it.
> The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there some German guy who was also waging a "moral war", with the intent of destroying holy sites and men and women and children, without a shred of mercy? (I don't think he killed perfectly usable cattle though - if my hazy memory is right, he was quite an animal lover.)
The guy has a point, albeit not the point he thinks he has...
All that such an action would do is unite the surrounding nations in a war that would see the destruction of Israel. The UN is unlikely to come to Israel's aid, and I doubt even the USA would want to act unilaterally in such circumstances. The most likely outcome would be nuclear war between Israel and Iran with the fallout killing pretty much everything in the region, it would be spookily peaceful in the Middle East if this were allowed to happen...
Fortunately, most people are civilized and live in civilized societies.
Equally fortunate is the fact that barbarism is no longer the general rule.
Fuck off, barbarian! Your time is done.
Blood, God, Skull Throne, war, terror, rapine pillage and slaughter eh?
So it's only bad if the other guy does it, huh?
The first Israeli prime minister who declares that he will follow the Old Testament will finally bring peace to the Middle East. ...
Well, yes, but not quite in the way you're hoping.
The Jewish Way is slaughter, burn, and pillage? I think you're confusing that with the Viking Way.
Oh, and peace is pointless if everyone's too dead to enjoy it.
Okay, but don't complain when the Muslims start destroying your cities right back.
How would killing each other bring peace to the Middle East?
Killing the cattle after you've killed the men, women and children is a tad redundant. Or are you afraid they'll arm themselves and seek revenge?
God commands it in the Bible. What's different now? It says "God is the same yesterday, today, and forever", so...
Zionist Conspiracy Theorist POSW: Wait, why would a Jewish rabbi say "the Old Testament"? As far as I know, Jews call it the Tanakh, right? Unless he said it in Hebrew and they translated it wrong, maybe this is just an attempt to tar Judaism's reputation.
Sane POSW: This shitbag doesn't deserve to call himself Jewish.
@ Jedi Knight
lulz, sounds good to me.
Obama, clearly is right!
There is nothing moral about war. One side or the other is seeking something it has no right to.
As a Jew, you should be aware that the kind of action you are proposing is exactly what was done to your people in the Europe of 70 years ago. I assume you approve of that too? Come on! Let's be consistent!
Well Dear Rabbi (if that's what you are), you are evil, and you can take your evil book and shove it - sideways - where the sun don't shine.
Hey, if you're going to fight a war, fight a war to your fullest.
Just don't be surprised when this gives justification to the other side fighting against you.
This is what I love about religion: here we have one set of loonies despising another set of loonies, both in the name of the god of Abraham. This is why loonies need supervision, not "tolerance", or "respect" for their "right" to have dangerous and murderous ideologies.
Why would you bomb a cemetery? If you want to piss someone off, a Dirty Sanchez is a lot cheaper and less cowardly.
I wish that I would live to see the day that every mosque, temple, church, "sacred" grotto, etc. was turned into a museum, but bombing them while people cling to these superstitions is not the answer. It's part of the problem.
Hopefully the prime minister didn't mean what the rabbi thinks he means, just as someone might not mean killing everything when they talk about old testament morality, and instead mean 10 commandments and stuff.
Yes, wastelands are pretty peaceful and quiet, completely devoid of any life.
Remember, 'Biblical proportions' apply to what God did, Not what man did. We can really scorch the Earth now.
That is not the Jewish way.
That is the way of idolaters and Amalekites.
This man is no rabbi. A rabbi teaches truth. This man teaches falsehood. Do not heed his words.
Okay, but I think we can safely say that when you try to implement this policy, you will do so without the support of the USA. And you can forget about the support of any other nation. All you will have on your side is your god.
Doesn't seem so attractive now, does it?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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