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what was wrong with the crusades? the inquisition? the Arabs raped, murdered, and pillages southern Europe for 500 years, the crusades were merely a tap on the shoulder... They deserved 10 crusades, we only gave them one... The inquisition was to kick Muslims out of Spain, after it had been over run by them for 300 years... Once again, they deserved 1000 inquisitions... My point is, Mexico EMBRACES it's satanic deity. The German flag isn't a swastika. The american flag isn't the flag of the inquisition or the crusades. I am always amazed at how hard it is to make people understand your point these days, i mean, it's like they're really, really dumb or something, they really lack any ability to think logically, it's like all hysterical mind control they impose on themselves.

sexyamanda14, Christian Forums 13 Comments [2/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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ScienceIsGreen

Wow there were 9 crusades you dumbass, and it wasn't even to get them out of Europe, it was to claim the holy land for the riches and whatnot that goes along with it. Mexico is a christian country, Germany flew the swastika for a breif period of the 20th century. The American flag has nothing to do with the crusades- that is the only part you got right! Have an F-bomb cookie.


\"I am always amazed at how hard it is to make myself understand valid points these days, i mean, it's like I'm really, really dumb or something, I really lack any ability to think logically, it's like all hysterical mind control I impose on myself.\"

12/9/2006 3:08:28 AM

Eve

\"the Arabs raped, murdered, and pillages southern Europe for 500 years,\"

No, they didn't. First of all, they may even have been invited into Spain by one side in the conflict that was going on at the time - among xian factions, I might add. They did try to push into southern France, but were stopped, so remained confined to the Iberian peninsula (that's Basque country, Portugal, and Spain to you). After some at-sea raiding, they pretty much settled down and concentrated on government.

While there, they managed to rule pretty fairly and well, treating both xians and Jews quite tolerantly, and certainly being much nicer than the xians to the Jews. The rate of conversion to Islam in Spain was, in fact, rather high and it wasn't forced (although as with any religion, the one that's in power is always going to look more attractive to most people, and non-muslims did pay extra taxes, for example).

Also, during their reign they managed to elevate culture, education, medicine, philosophy, art, and literature among other fields to a truly admirable level with far-reaching effects and influences still surviving today, and not just in Spain. While they were there, xian Europe couldn't have cared less about islam, and it was only once the end of the Carolingian Empire left so many professional knights unemployed and needing military jobs that the xians' incursions on Spanish territory really picked up and started catching Europeans' imaginations (interesting, isn't it, that no united xian army rallied itself to go \"free\" the Iberian peninsula from the \"muslim scourge;\" the Spanish xians had to do that on their own).

All the other willfully ignorant claptrap you spewed (obviously you've never bothered to truly study history, just read badly-researched fundie propaganda) has already been addressed by ScienceIsGreen - and by the way, make up your mind: did the muslims \"rape, murder, and pillage southern Europe\" for 500 years or did they \"over run [sic]\" Spain for 300 years?

12/9/2006 3:49:13 AM

Toga

There's a reason why CrusadeS is plural, genius. Then again I can't expect much from a supposedly devout Christian who must proclaim her \"sexiness\" wherever she posts.

12/9/2006 3:56:16 AM



A tap on the shoulder? Tell that to the Arabs and Europeans who died in those wars. Tell that to the thousands of Jews who were slaughtered on the way to Jerusalem for the heck of it. Tell that to the Christian residents of Constantinople, whose city got pillaged and ransacked by the crusaders and consequently left vulnerable to Ottoman conquest.

The Inquisition did not target Muslims only; it targeted ANYONE who didn't agree with the Church's rigid teachings. It was even worse than the McCarthy era and the Salem Witch Trials. It was a fascist monstrosity and a shadow on humanity. No one deserved one Inquisition, let alone a thousand.

I fail to see how Mexico and the flags of Germany and America are relevant. I will simply point out that Mexico's population is overall Christian and if you're referring to the Aztec gods, I don't think that they're worshipped by many Mexicans any longer.

You're a dithering idiot.

12/2/2007 1:15:31 PM

Freboy

The Inquistition also had a go at the Jews, not to mention being a tool to abolish the Knights Templar.

12/2/2007 3:28:35 PM

T. McGee

My thoughts, too, Toga. And I really hope the "14" isn't indicative of her age. There's just something sketchy about that.

11/18/2008 10:17:24 PM

v200

1 crusade? Try 9. And the Muslim's brought algebra and many other things to Spain.

10/1/2011 7:12:07 AM

Number 6

Getting the number of Crusades wrong? Check.

Getting the Reconquista and the Inquisition mixed up? Check.

Utter gibberish about Mexico, Germany and America? Check.

Accusing others of being hysterical and irrational after a hysterical and irrational post? Check.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a typical fundie history fail.

10/1/2011 7:19:27 AM

Swede

Both the crusades and the inquisitions killed and tortured people, and forced a set of belief onto people. In my book, those things are VERY wrong.

If there was only one crusade, why did you say "the crusades" in the beginning of this text?

If no-one understands your point, then what is the common denominator here? It's you, dearie.
Perhaps you're the one lacking the ability to convey your ideas to others?

Who calls herself sexyamanda14 on a Christian forum?
I seriously hope you're not 14 years old, Mandy dear. Kid's that young shouldn't describe themselves as sexy, especially not on the Net.

10/1/2011 7:33:21 AM

Crimson Lizard

14 isn't her age, it's her IQ.

6/23/2012 11:10:59 AM

Justanotheratheist

You're a fine one to call others "really dumb" and doubting their ability to think logically.

6/27/2012 3:22:34 AM

Kuno

As an (amateur) history buff with special interest in the times of the crusades this poster’s ignorance irks me more than a little.

The history of the crusades shows heroic and noble deeds as well as absolute horrific atrocities from all sides. (Note that I didn’t write “both” sides, because as always in RL, there was more to it than simple black and white/good vs. evil/Christians vs. Muslims. And don’t even get me started at stuff like the Albigensian Crusade and the siege of Montsegur.)

6/27/2012 5:30:22 AM

Ebon

There were nine Crusades, you moron, most of which were about trying to conquer the Holy Land. And the Inquisitions (there were at least four) had nothing to do with Muslims, they were all about exterminating heresy from Catholicism.

8/28/2012 2:01:11 PM
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