I was completely convicted at Sunday School class this past week. It was on loving our enemies. Stuff like the evil against our Lord makes my blood boil but I was reminded that one of Christianity's supreme advantages above all other religions is we are the only ones who love our enemies.
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What the hell is "convicted" supposed to mean, anyway? It's what happens when you're found guilty of a crime, and AFAIK, Sunday School is NOT a court of any kind and thus cannot "convict" you.
Maybe you meant, "convince"?
And no, you Christians don't "love your enemies" -- you try to eradicate them in any way you can, from spreading vicious slander to outright murder. If that's "love", I don't want it.
If what you Christians do and say to your enemies is considered "love", I'd hate to see how you treat your allies.
Also, how did you mix convinced with convicted.
You know, loving your enemy takes a lot more than just SAYING you do.
It requires, you know, DOING it.
Growing up in a fundie church as an atheist, I hypothesized that being 'convicted' was just a muddled religious-minded term for 'instinct'. Not sure what to do ? Talk to yourself a while(pray) and the spirit will convict you (your dumb brain will figure it out subconsciously while in the meditation/trance/prayer state)
It's quite depressing to think that this might be the highest level of understanding and insight into another religion that you will achieve.
The supreme test for you will be to go all the way and abandon the fundamentalist cults by converting to Christianity. It's possibly not too late for you. At least Christianity is closer to humanity than is fundamental cultism. Although, admittedly, the fundamentalist cults do tend to cling to Christianity's coattails somewhat.
Still, one must accept the fact that humans are continually inventing new religions. Why? I don't know. Possibly there is an evolutionary advantage to religion? Tribalism? Power over others? Sexual?
Kitty, "convicted" is a christian verb. basically, they think that everybody has "preferences" that can change at the drop of a hat, while christians have "convictions" that, once established, don't change but become stronger.
so, to "be convicted" means to pinky-swear to god that you'll always always do whatever it is you think you got "convicted" about.
it's stupid, pretentious, and grammatically shitty, i.e. standard fundie thinking
Pft
Well, you do love your enemies, provided they're not gay, black, women, Muslims, Jews, doctors, scientists, atheists, agnostics, Pagans, tattooists, hair dressers, public school teachers, Labour supporters (or in America's case Democrats) Greenies or indeed any one who doesn't follow your ideals...
...Well, I suppose if you take all of them out of the picture, they do indeed love their enemies - there's no one left to hate!
Even without religion I can care for and treat well persons who do not agree with me, thank you.
Be sure your "loving" of your enemies isn't just for the way it makes YOU feel. That would be very greedy and self-centered... and very Christian.
Don´t worry,
you´re only supposed to love your enemies, if you´re an ordinary christian.
If you´re a christian fundamentalist however, you are supposed to hate your enemies with all your strength and do everything to destroy and/or kill them.
At least that´s what I conclude from the behavior of christian fundamentalists ;)
Yeah, right. "Love your enemies" but . There's always a "but". Fundies seem to think God is stupid enough to be fooled by someone saying "I love my enemies" when their attitudes show that they neither respect nor listen to people who disagree with their narrow, hate-filled, judgmental definition of Christianity.
BTW, "convicted" is just King James Bible English for "chastised". Fundies seem to think they get extra credit from God when they use 400 year old words whose meaning has changed.
Where I come from, to be "convicted" in church just means the pastor said something in his sermon that tweaks your conscience or sense of guilt about some sin you're committing in your life which you haven't corrected, and know you should.
Too bad this fundie's solution to her guilt doesn't include educating herself to try to understand other religions and the people she believes are committing "evil against our Lord", rather than continuing to see everyone else as evil and inferior, and trying to "love" them anyway.
"... we are the only ones who love our enemies."
Really? Well, then you're really going to love me. Muhahahahahaha!
The irony meter, she isn't working...
If you're looking for reasons why you're better than religions you don't understand, that's not loving your enemies. That's not loving your enemies, that's more of the same! </biden>
never once seen it myself...
also, buddhism, so shut up.
So love equals bigotry, hate, persecution, judgment, murder, lies, etc? Damn, those of us who don't agree with your stupidity are horrible people!
Really rich coming from a hate-filled cesspool like RR.
Hell, the entire premise of your website is hoping and praying that the entire world be destroyed . Well, except for you and everyone else in God's fanclub.
Yeah, the people living in Bagdad are really feeling your love. And the people of Afganistan didn't notice the difference when they passed over from friends in the war against Soviet, to enemies in the war for Oil.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still feeling that love, 64 years later... Oh, they might not have been enemies in a religious sense, but you were Christians then too, right?
Because loving your enemies = putting a bullet in them?
Because loving your enemies = telling them they will burn in hell forever?
Because loving your enemies = treating everyone who doesn't conform to your narrow view of the world like shit?
Keep your 'love', you sad little person.
Well, Buddism and Islam, at least in theory, command the same. Do a little study instead of going to going to "tribunals"
Matthew 5:43-48 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shall love thy neighbor, and hate your enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. (KJV)
Someone else's words, not mine. This comes right after the bit on turning the other cheek, which you probably didn't like, either.
"...we are the only ones who love our enemies."
Then why do the Buddhists do a better job of it?
Another lie for Jesus. *sigh*
"I was completely convicted at Sunday School"
Anyone stupid enough to go to Sunday school should be convicted. 15 to life, and become the cell-wing's cumdumpster.
"we are the only ones who love our enemies"
Not according to some of the loathsome & stomach-churning bigotry, bile, venom & vitriol spat at those not remotely a True Christian that I've read at Ruptured Retards. But then, as I always say, Hypocrisy, thy name is Fundie.
Matthew 7:16: 'We shall know them by their fruit.'
Oh yes, we know you fundies. Only too well.
Yeah, because the Buddhists have nothing about treating others with respect.
Oh right, we have to be nice; you can love them and damn them to hell in the same breath.
Edit:
To those above me, check your dictionaries.
2 : to convince of error or sinfulness
Merriam Webster
Haven't seen that represented in my life.
Point of fact: Your Christian party (Republican) has started all the wars (that their involved in) since WW2: Speak of foriegn nations not by their actions, their beliefs or their politics but by their resistance to Christianity.
No love, respect, tolerance or understanding found within Christian ranks. Talking about it is not living by it.
They will love us...
TO DEATH!
"I was completely convicted..." Convicted of what? Being a blithering idiot? No argument there, then.
Oh, and your idea of love is scary enough to frighten the warts off a warthog.
I hope you, as a person, separate from your ilk (read: Rapture Ready), actually do this. No exceptions. Otherwise, it'd be better you stay out of this.
"I was reminded that one of Christianity's supreme advantages above all other religions is we are the only ones who love our enemies."
Saying you love someone and then screaming about how they shouldn't have any legal rights and are going to burn in hell =/= actually loving someone.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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