Well, the Christian view is that humanity was put in charge of creation by God, with powers delegated from him. Humanity however ignored the guidelines for managing this. If you wire a plug the wrong way because you deliberately ignore the instructions on how to do so, you should not be surprised if you get an electric shock. As a result of humanity's disobedience, the whole of creation is now out of joint and doesn't 'run' as it should. That's why tsunamis and other shit happens. No use in pointing the finger at God when there are three other fingers pointing back at you.
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Get over yourself. We and this planet not that important and thinking otherwise is a sign of pure arrogance.
<grammar nazi>And it's tsunami , not "tsunamis". The plural is the same as the singular.</grammar nazi>
So not believing in your "god" is like not reading the instructions. Huh.
At least there's a tangible benefit from reading the instructions.
Your "god" has yet to do anything.
So...the planet is out to get us because we ate a fruit that God all but waved in front of us, but said "Don't touch," but being all omniscient and stuff, should have known the result.
Superdickery. Not just for Superman.
@Lord X
Tsunami have nothing to do with weather. They're triggered by earthquakes below the ocean floor.</pedantry>
If only everyone worshiped theologooner's god. Think of the lives that could be spared by halting the natural geological/meteorological processes which have gone on since the formation of earth.
Really, there's got to be more efficient ways to deal with disobedience than the occasional storm. Oh, wait, that's right...Those storms aren't sent as punishment for disobedience. They're a natural process which may interfere with human activity.
The "instructions" for the use of earth say, that it is a bad thing to release too much CO2 into the atmosphere while at the same time felling treees like crazy and might lead to problems with the climate including extreme phenomenons like tsunamis, floods or hurricanes.
Yet most of you christian fundamentalists strongly support the exploitation of earth because you believe, that god gives us another earth soon (and or, the end (=Rapture/Tribulation) is near)
I agree that there is no use in pointing fingers at imaginary beings.
On another note, I am yet to hear convincing argument on how obeying and preaching "the word of God" of the Bible to avoid natural disasters is different from dancing around a bonfire with a tambourine to call for a rain. Both are equally pointless, save for participants feeling self-righteous in the process and saying "well, at least we tried".
Tsunami as a result of human disobedience? Seriously, do you really think you are that important? And then you call others arrogant for not believing in a god?
...Is this an "explanation" of why original sin doesn't make god a total douche bag? If so the analogy fails, as the instructions had to be in an obscure incomprehensible, and not available when "humans" fucked up for it to work.
Three other fingers? Oh yeah because your God is "Three in One!" like some Craftsman tool because the Catholics caved in to polytheism...
Oh, and go research why tsunamis happen, no God needed, just add underwater earthquakes!
Wait, are we manipulating tecthonic plates since, at least, 10,000 BC?, WTF?
Except, we weren't even on Earth until we were disobedient, which means that Earth is "out of joint" by default. We didn't wire a plug the wrong way: we pissed off an electrician and he forced us to use faulty wiring that will give us electric shocks as penance! And the only way to get it fixed is by following "guidelines", sure. Unfortunately, the only guidelines he gave us were cryptically worded and curiously only able to found as second-hand accounts scrawled in the notes of former residents of the house, who said that they were directly dictating information from this electrician. In addition, other past residents compiled these scattered notes and declared it to be the effective guidelines to make the wiring less dangerous, even though those guidelines have never worked, the electrician has yet to be seen in the present, and there are other random scrawlings of people claiming to have also received information from the electrician on how to call for his help or best avoid electric shocks which have been arbitrarily ignored and kept out of the compendium of TRUE guidelines. Why he couldn't have just left a business card or an instruction manual that he himself constructed, rather than relying on laymen to take notes, I haven't the slightest.
In short: Fuck you, electrician!
Yes, yes, of course. The presence of unstable undersea fault lines, which were formed millions of years before humanity even existed, are all caused by gay sex.
Sheesh... that sounds like my ex! Malcolm is that you?
He used to love saying the "when you point your finger at me, there are three more pointing back at you" after he'd beaten the shit out of me and I was accusing him of being an asshole!
Yes, all the problem's are our fault. If only god were omnipotent, then maybe he could fix it, right?
When they say that all disasters are humanity's fault what they really mean is that disaster happen because of non-christians. A good example of this is Falwell blaming 9/11 on groups of americans that he personally didn't like. These are the type of people that will gladly place blame on anyone other than themselves, they think they have a direct line to "god" and that it makes them better than everyone who doesn't meet their definition of a "true christian".
@dpareja
"<grammar nazi>And it's tsunami, not "tsunamis". The plural is the same as the singular.</grammar nazi>"
<grammar nazi>Actually it can be spelt both ways. Making a mistake is one thing, but when correcting others, make damn sure you are right first.</grammar nazi>
Well, at least he is close to being an enviromentalist....
Still stupid, 'cause he thinks that prayer will make the tornado go away, but he is close.
Except there's no increase in natural (because that's what they are) disasters where they aren't good Christians. The Bible belt gets most tornados and hurricanes and therefor floods. Where's the stupid Farwell or Roberstson comments and accusations then?
And just to nitpick: to point at something is to straighten the finger or arm at somethings direction, bent fingers are not pointing
When I give you the finger do you think I'm pointing at my inside elbow? What the hell's my thumb pointing at? I'm surprised this phrase" ,,three other fingers pointing back' didn't show up in a 'Bat Out Of Hell' album, cliché wizard that Steinman was
Sorry but old phrases that never made sense should be eliminated from the language, like all clichés except 'shit happens' ( as it's the 'unifying theory of everything' that falls into the catagory only due to it's wide usage)
Actually, if the plug is insulated you shouldn't get an electric shock even if it's been wired up wrong. You might blow a fuse or breaker, though.
And no, I didn't cause tsunami or "other shit." If I could control the weather, I'd be the most powerful man on the planet.
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