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Well, the Christian view is that humanity was put in charge of creation by God, with powers delegated from him. Humanity however ignored the guidelines for managing this. If you wire a plug the wrong way because you deliberately ignore the instructions on how to do so, you should not be surprised if you get an electric shock. As a result of humanity's disobedience, the whole of creation is now out of joint and doesn't 'run' as it should. That's why tsunamis and other shit happens. No use in pointing the finger at God when there are three other fingers pointing back at you.

theologooner, goonersweb 41 Comments [6/15/2009 8:39:37 PM]
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Get over yourself. We and this planet not that important and thinking otherwise is a sign of pure arrogance.

<grammar nazi>And it's tsunami, not "tsunamis". The plural is the same as the singular.</grammar nazi>

6/15/2009 8:49:58 PM

Lord X

Maybe tsunami happen for the same reason hurricanes happen? WEATHER

6/15/2009 8:58:22 PM


So not believing in your "god" is like not reading the instructions. Huh.

At least there's a tangible benefit from reading the instructions.

Your "god" has yet to do anything.

6/15/2009 9:23:44 PM


If you need to read the instructions every time you wire a plug... aah, forget it.

6/15/2009 9:51:54 PM


We've had two ice storms, two F-1 tornadoes and numerous fires caused by lightning strikes since same sex marriage was declared illegal here in 2005. I think God is angry at us for making same sex marriage illegal.

6/15/2009 10:08:00 PM


Three fingers?

It God some sort of freak? Or does he misunderstand the whole "pointing THE (singular, not plural) finger" scenario?

6/15/2009 10:29:15 PM


@ Charni

It's the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit each holding up on finger to mankind. Guess which one?

6/15/2009 11:04:00 PM


Sure, I won't point a finger at god. Pointing a finger is rude. I'll point a whole hand!

6/15/2009 11:27:04 PM

Doctor Whom

At the same time, global warming is a lie-beral myth.

6/15/2009 11:49:59 PM


I have rubber gloves. No shock for me.

6/16/2009 12:57:59 AM

I guess he's not counting thumb, but I immediately imagined he was a yellow four-fingered Simpsons character and cracked up.

6/16/2009 2:50:55 AM


So...the planet is out to get us because we ate a fruit that God all but waved in front of us, but said "Don't touch," but being all omniscient and stuff, should have known the result.

Superdickery. Not just for Superman.

6/16/2009 3:02:12 AM


@Lord X

Tsunami have nothing to do with weather. They're triggered by earthquakes below the ocean floor.</pedantry>

If only everyone worshiped theologooner's god. Think of the lives that could be spared by halting the natural geological/meteorological processes which have gone on since the formation of earth.

Really, there's got to be more efficient ways to deal with disobedience than the occasional storm. Oh, wait, that's right...Those storms aren't sent as punishment for disobedience. They're a natural process which may interfere with human activity.

6/16/2009 5:31:19 AM

So the weather is man's fault because he sinned and hasn't been livin' the good life, eh? Yeah, right. You keep right on thinkin' that hooey.

6/16/2009 5:32:59 AM


The "instructions" for the use of earth say, that it is a bad thing to release too much CO2 into the atmosphere while at the same time felling treees like crazy and might lead to problems with the climate including extreme phenomenons like tsunamis, floods or hurricanes.

Yet most of you christian fundamentalists strongly support the exploitation of earth because you believe, that god gives us another earth soon (and or, the end (=Rapture/Tribulation) is near)

6/16/2009 5:49:43 AM

The Jamo

The only ones pointing at god are idiots and fundies. The ones who don't realise that natural disasters have nothing to do with god or how well we behave... maybe except for global warming, but nobody really knows enough about that to truly say.

6/16/2009 5:49:57 AM


I agree that there is no use in pointing fingers at imaginary beings.

On another note, I am yet to hear convincing argument on how obeying and preaching "the word of God" of the Bible to avoid natural disasters is different from dancing around a bonfire with a tambourine to call for a rain. Both are equally pointless, save for participants feeling self-righteous in the process and saying "well, at least we tried".

Tsunami as a result of human disobedience? Seriously, do you really think you are that important? And then you call others arrogant for not believing in a god?

6/16/2009 6:25:49 AM


...Is this an "explanation" of why original sin doesn't make god a total douche bag? If so the analogy fails, as the instructions had to be in an obscure incomprehensible, and not available when "humans" fucked up for it to work.

6/16/2009 6:39:35 AM


I'm confused. Isn't your god omnipotent?

6/16/2009 7:22:24 AM


Three other fingers? Oh yeah because your God is "Three in One!" like some Craftsman tool because the Catholics caved in to polytheism...

Oh, and go research why tsunamis happen, no God needed, just add underwater earthquakes!

6/16/2009 9:26:55 AM

Wait, are we manipulating tecthonic plates since, at least, 10,000 BC?, WTF?

6/16/2009 10:06:18 AM

Allegory for Jesus

Except, we weren't even on Earth until we were disobedient, which means that Earth is "out of joint" by default. We didn't wire a plug the wrong way: we pissed off an electrician and he forced us to use faulty wiring that will give us electric shocks as penance! And the only way to get it fixed is by following "guidelines", sure. Unfortunately, the only guidelines he gave us were cryptically worded and curiously only able to found as second-hand accounts scrawled in the notes of former residents of the house, who said that they were directly dictating information from this electrician. In addition, other past residents compiled these scattered notes and declared it to be the effective guidelines to make the wiring less dangerous, even though those guidelines have never worked, the electrician has yet to be seen in the present, and there are other random scrawlings of people claiming to have also received information from the electrician on how to call for his help or best avoid electric shocks which have been arbitrarily ignored and kept out of the compendium of TRUE guidelines. Why he couldn't have just left a business card or an instruction manual that he himself constructed, rather than relying on laymen to take notes, I haven't the slightest.

In short: Fuck you, electrician!

6/16/2009 10:22:25 AM

Mister Spak

But muslim is the real religion so nothing that follows the 'christian view' is worth thinking about.

6/16/2009 10:37:55 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

That isnt what happens when you wire a plug wrong.

Please dont involve the theory of electricity in your theological rant.. thats blasphemy!

6/16/2009 10:58:22 AM

Old Viking

Tsunamis are caused by bad fruit.

6/16/2009 11:03:16 AM

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