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For me homosexuality is not a temptation because I never went for that. I could have when I was in highschool and a schoolmate started to do things that one would now call homosexual, starting to masturbate in front of me when I came to him to do homework together! 'I hate him for that,' but as a Christian I am rewquired to forgive him and so I do. That is why I know so very well that homosexuality is a CHOICE! I think every boy has things like this happen in his life, where he must make a choice; the RIGHT CHOICE! Which homosexuals want to deny him, and our Minister of Education, Minister Plasterk, a fool and an idiot and a dangerous man for the land, corrupting the land when he commands his inpectors to go out in the Netherlands to all schools to make sure that all kids are taught that homosexuality is normal.

dutchlionfrans1953, Cranmer 60 Comments [6/15/2009 12:24:55 PM]
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Gebusi

"...schoolmate started to do things that one would now call homosexual, starting to masturbate in front of me when I came to him to do homework together!"

I think that was still called homosexual, even back then. It wasn't a temptation because you aren't gay.

6/15/2009 12:29:32 PM



Can someonme translate this from bable to english?

6/15/2009 12:29:37 PM

Doctor Whom

I think you've managed to add 2+2 and get i.

6/15/2009 12:31:25 PM

JohnTheAtheist

If it is a 100% a choice I dare ya to choose to be gay for a month. I double fucking dare ya!

6/15/2009 12:32:51 PM

breakerslion

"I hate him for that,' but as a Christian I am rewquired to forgive him and so I do."

Both cannot be true except in a conflicted mind, and even then both cannot be absolutely true. One of your aspects is delusional. Who taught you that the proper response to such behavior was hatred in the first place? Why didn't you just leave, or make it plain that you considered that behavior inappropriate? Was something lacking in your ability to be an active member in shaping your world? Who told you that you were a helpless sinner, worthless and weak, etc.? Why do you think this whole situation bothers you so much?

6/15/2009 12:40:00 PM

Orestes

One, your hypothetical schoolmate probably is not of sound mind.

Two, every boy does not have some other guy beat off in front of them, you are in the very disturbing minority.

And three, why do I even bother, you're a fucking idiot, I give up.

6/15/2009 12:44:19 PM

aaa

Tell me about your childhood.

6/15/2009 12:46:56 PM

AuraTwilight

I don't think it's homosexual if someone walks in on a guy while he's masturbating. That's just bad timing.

6/15/2009 12:48:03 PM

Big Jilm

Your logic doesn't follow from the premise. Because your Christianity rewquires you to forgim him that means it's a choice? You fuckers can't even construct a simple fucking sentence and you expect to be taken seriously?

It's not a choice, but even if it was, so fucking what? Move to Iran, fucking theocrat knuckle-dragger.

6/15/2009 12:49:39 PM

Old Viking

When I was a boy I saw a soda jerk masturbate behind the service counter. Man, I never ordered anything with whipped cream in that place again.

6/15/2009 12:53:17 PM

GigaGuess

For me homosexuality is not a temptation because I never went for that.
And still you feel it's a choice, eh? Think about this for a moment, and then come back to me.

I could have when I was in highschool and a schoolmate started to do things that one would now call homosexual, starting to masturbate in front of me when I came to him to do homework together!
Which makes your friend at the time of a questionable mental state. Maybe gay, maybe not, who knows, but there's more to it than just TEH GHEY!

'I hate him for that,' but as a Christian I am rewquired to forgive him and so I do.
Bullshit. The fact that it even pings up in your mind and the word "Hate" shows up with it shows that any forgiveness is lip service.

That is why I know so very well that homosexuality is a CHOICE!
Because it did nothing for you? Not that you chose for it not to turn you on, but that it didn't? Gotcha.

I think every boy has things like this happen in his life, where he must make a choice; the RIGHT CHOICE!
Oh good lord, give me a break...

Which homosexuals want to deny him...
See, that's the funny thing. We just want to be left alone. You are the ones denying choices and rights...

[b]... and our Minister of Education, Minister Plasterk, a fool and an idiot and a dangerous man for the land...[b/]
I'm guessing you don't like him...

...corrupting the land when he commands his inpectors to go out in the Netherlands to all schools to make sure that all kids are taught that homosexuality is normal.
Define normal. I bet there's a ton of things YOU do that are abnormal. Should we ban those things, too?

6/15/2009 1:06:15 PM

Lucilius

I never "went for" homosexuality either, but the very idea doesn't terrify me. What's wrong with you? Afraid you might like it, since after all these years you're still thinking about your homework buddy?

6/15/2009 1:06:51 PM

Will B.

Wow, something similar happened to me once! Someone who I did not find sexually attractive tried to hit on me, but I did not respond in kind! And guess what? To this day, I'm STILL not attracted to that typer of person! That TOTALLY proves that sexual attraction is a choice!

</sarcasm>

6/15/2009 1:12:25 PM

Mat

Goddammit, it's dutch. Sorry everyone, we'll send the clean-up squad over to his location asap.

6/15/2009 1:17:14 PM

pete

A compulsive need to masturbate has nothing to do with homosexuality.

6/15/2009 1:18:15 PM

ND

Wow, that is messed up!. Just admit to yourself that you are gay, and then you won't have to hate yourself anymore. Be gay and proud of it!

6/15/2009 1:24:15 PM

patrick4024

At least the religious bigots are not confined to the USA.

6/15/2009 1:27:50 PM

D Laurier.

umm.. For me, homosexuality was never a temptation simply because its not a temptation. It's a sexual orientation.
That said it's no less normal than left handedness.
We dont persecute leftys anymore either.

6/15/2009 1:28:15 PM

tracer

It IS true that sexuality is, to some extent, an acquired taste. It is possible, given sufficient motivation, for anyone to learn to be sexually aroused by just about anything -- the same sex, the opposite sex, barn animals, furniture, you name it.

This is why the so-called "ex-gay" ministries are partially successful. A gay man can learn to be attracted to women. The problem is, he can't learn NOT to be attracted to men. Once a taste is acquired, you can't un-acquire it. These "ex-gay" ministries aren't turning gay men straight, they're turning gay men bisexual.

6/15/2009 1:31:15 PM

DevilsChaplain

"I could have when I was in highschool and a schoolmate started to do things that one would now call homosexual, starting to masturbate in front of me when I came to him to do homework together!"

6/15/2009 1:41:17 PM

Amanda

Masturbating in front of people without their permission isn't homosexual, it's just sick. There IS a difference.

6/15/2009 1:41:18 PM

Thinking Allowed

I just wonder when dutchlionfrans chose to heterosexual?

6/15/2009 1:43:26 PM

Misty

...homosexuality isn't a choice, you were just straight.

6/15/2009 2:00:54 PM

Headache

I must be very bad at making up my mind, I go back and forth all the time and some times, in between!

6/15/2009 2:15:22 PM

WMDKitty

So you CHOSE to be heterosexual? You CHOOSE to find women attractive?

That's funny, because I certainly didn't have a choice....

6/15/2009 2:18:20 PM
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