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Some theistic (and secular) evolutionists have argued that the 'days' mentioned in the creation account in Genesis are 'metaphorical' or 'symbolic' and not meant to be taken literally.

Yet, Moses writes in Exodus 20:11 -

For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

So, are we supposed to work for the alleged billions of years some
evolutionists claim it took GOD to create the universe and life, and then rest AFTER those billions of years????

Obviously, the days in Genesis are meant LITERALLY.

Also, if Adam and Eve were merely 'symbolic' of humankind and not literal human beings, why does the Bible give their lineage down to Jesus???

Obviously, Adam and Eve were literal people.

knight-in-black-leather, IMDB 63 Comments [6/16/2009 2:06:26 PM]
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The Jamo

Riddle me this, fundie. How could there have been a day when there was no clocking mechanism that would define it, such as Earth's periodic rotation and its orbit around the sun? You may say that it was simply 24 hours, but that argument doesn't stand either when you have no clock to measure the rate of change by. Here lies one of the MANY problems with your "hypothesis".

6/16/2009 7:16:18 PM

Vince

they say these things because it's so painfully obvious that your fairy tales are total bull shit that these people have finally admitted it and claimed "metaphor" because it's all they've got left.

their trying very hard to abandon the sinking ship of the bible with some dignity. you on the other hand are openly clinging to the mast of that ship until your last breath, and I'll be happy to see you sink with it.

6/16/2009 7:46:07 PM

Horsefeathers

"Some theistic (and secular) evolutionists have argued that the 'days' mentioned in the creation account in Genesis are 'metaphorical' or 'symbolic' and not meant to be taken literally."

Actually, it's reality that insists you not take the "six days" literally.

"Yet, Moses writes [...]"

Moses, if he existed, lived a few thousand years before it would have even been possible to date the Earth. Moses, therefor, is not to be considered an authority.

"So, are we supposed to work for the alleged billions of years some
evolutionists claim it took GOD to create the universe and life, and then rest AFTER those billions of years????"


You seem... confused.

"Obviously, the days in Genesis are meant LITERALLY."

Maybe. Next time I bump into a four thousand year old Jew I'll ask him.

So what if it was taken literally during the time of Moses? So was "demon possession" as an explanation for disease. I'll bet you see a doctor for some antibiotics and not a priest to have pigeon blood sprinkled on you when you're sick though, don't ya?

"Also, if Adam and Eve were merely 'symbolic' of humankind and not literal human beings, why does the Bible give their lineage down to Jesus???"

Not really clear on how this whole Christianity thing works, are you?

"Obviously, Adam and Eve were literal people."

Take a course in population genetics. You can't get six billion people from two. Well, you can in fairy tales but in the real world you run into nasty genetic problems pretty quick.

6/16/2009 7:59:33 PM

Nowonmai

Also, if Adam and Eve were merely 'symbolic' of humankind and not literal human beings, why does the Bible give their lineage down to Jesus?

Because it's a story. I can show you other stories that list imaginary lineages too.

6/16/2009 8:01:02 PM

EvoPagan

Obviously.

And you better get out there and kick the shit out of every rabbit you see that isn't chewing its cud. I suggest you wear steel-toed boots, because the ones whose backs you don't break are going to come back after your ass.

6/16/2009 8:02:34 PM

Mihangel apYrs

so now answer:
why did it take an all-powerful god 6 days to do it all?

why did he need to rest afterwards?


If A&E were the first ever people to live EVERYONE is their direct descendant (do these people have intellects that can function even in their alternative reality!!!?)

6/16/2009 11:25:58 PM

Doctor Fishcake

You spin me right round baby right round,
Fundie logic baby right round, round, round...

6/17/2009 12:04:55 AM



Literal applies only to texts. That's just the first mistake.

6/17/2009 1:04:02 AM

Nathan the Wise

Can I just point out that the (two different) genealogies listed in the Gospels both lead down to Joseph of Nazareth. Who, according to the story, wasn't the father of Jesus ...

6/17/2009 1:23:52 AM

Dan Onymous

"So, are we supposed to work for the alleged billions of years some
evolutionists claim it took GOD to create the universe and life, and then rest AFTER those billions of years???? "

No of course not, it's metaphorical. Why would God need to rest at all?

He's omnipotent.

We aren't and He's telling us it's bad for us to work a 7 day week.

6/17/2009 2:25:59 AM

Metatron

This shit-for-brains seems to think that him quoting the bible suddenly makes it a literal truth.

6/17/2009 2:50:20 AM

Atheismo

None of it is meant to be taken literally.

And why would a "secular evolutionist" (WTF is that, anyway?) give a rat's ass about the 6 days creation myth in Genesis?

6/17/2009 2:50:22 AM

Mr Blur

Oh, Obviously. And obviously you're a dickhead.

6/17/2009 2:51:36 AM

aaa

What a sucker.

6/17/2009 2:56:10 AM



> Also, if Adam and Eve were merely 'symbolic' of humankind and not literal human beings, why does the Bible give their lineage down to Jesus???

...Are you seriously saying Jesus was Adam and Eve's ancestor??? And you expect people to take your word on history seriously?

6/17/2009 4:40:58 AM

Mister Spak

Obviously, you take a bronze age myth way too seriouosly.

6/17/2009 4:52:42 AM



So, are we supposed to work for the alleged billions of years some
evolutionists claim it took GOD to create the universe and life, and then rest AFTER those billions of years????


Let me get this straight -

You don't believe evolution because it doesn't allow you time off work?

6/17/2009 4:54:15 AM

Doctor Whom


6/17/2009 5:49:11 AM

Priestling

Either the OT is fact or it's not. MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS!

6/17/2009 7:08:30 AM

iam667

If it's literal I hope your not working at the Walmart on the sabbath,
That pisses God off more than them gosh darn Sodomites

6/17/2009 8:24:01 AM

Papabear

" if Adam and Eve were merely 'symbolic' of humankind and not literal human beings, why does the Bible give their lineage down to Jesus???"

Because, when creating a religion, people make up all sorts of ridiculous crap.

6/17/2009 8:41:54 AM

Dudely

The lineage is given in 2 parts- from Adam to David and from David to Jesus. Read the lineage given from David to Jesus in Luke. Then read the other one (Acts or Matthew, can't remember). One has significantly more generations (23 compared with 42 or something similar to that) than the other with little overlap between names. Almost like they just made it up. . .

6/17/2009 8:55:57 AM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

How do you know Moses wasn't being metaphorical, as well? And what if the lineage to Jesus was an evolutionary tree? Admittedly I don't quite think that, but you haven't exactly explained why it can't be that way.

But more importantly, how can Jesus even have a lineage? He was conceived directly by God. Was God descended from Adam and Eve as well? Was God created by his own creation? ...What?

6/17/2009 11:58:23 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Makes you an inbred dumbass, dumbass.

6/17/2009 12:31:05 PM

Swedish Pagan

The Bible is a collection of stories, written, or rather told over thousands of years. The younger ones was made by people who had read or heard the older ones.

I'd rather trust in hard evidence on the Earth being billions of years old, than trust to a collection of stories saying one thing in one book and another thing in another book.

6/17/2009 12:49:55 PM
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