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[From an article about visitors to Creationism in Kentucky}

The retired businessman dismisses Darwin's theory as "not even a low grade hypothesis" and said it had "no substantial science" in it. "The Bible says God created the Earth in six days and we flat believe that. There are over 100 ways science is able to look at the Earth and 90 say it is thousands of years old - only 10 say it's real old." He adds: "The way liberals and evolutionists win an argument is to outlaw freedom of speech... they won't let us in. Why is Darwin buried with kings at Westminster Abbey? He's not a king. He's the king of the atheists' movement, of people who don't want to deal with the guilt that's put on them by sin... it's a weight and a bondage, they become their own God."

Robert Mailloux, BBC Magazine 63 Comments [6/15/2009 9:16:11 PM]
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Mister Spak

I dismiss the bible as a low grade fairy tale that has no science whatsoever. The evidence says Earth is 4.6 billion years old any way you look at it. The way fundies and conservatives win an argument is to outlaw freedom of speech.

6/16/2009 5:46:57 AM




"Why is Darwin buried with kings at Westminster Abbey? He's not a king"

hmm i guess that means that Nelson, Wellington and Churchill are all kings then...

6/16/2009 6:19:06 AM

RH-00

King Unknown Warrior? That is the best fucking name ever.

6/16/2009 6:26:54 AM

Efrain

and all but ten are pulled out of Bobby-boy's ass.

6/16/2009 6:45:53 AM

Horsefeathers

"The retired businessman dismisses Darwin's theory as "not even a low grade hypothesis" and said it had "no substantial science" in it."

I question his ability to evaluate the veracity of a scientific theory based on both his profession and apparent lack of comprehension of what said theory states.

""The Bible says God created the Earth in six days and we flat believe that."

Let me guess. You believe that because it's "easier" or just "makes sense" and doesn't involve all that hard thinkin' stuff, right?

"There are over 100 ways science is able to look at the Earth and 90 say it is thousands of years old - only 10 say it's real old.""

Bullshit. Every dating method points to 4.6 billion years old for the age of the Earth. Every. Fucking. One.

"He adds: "The way liberals and evolutionists win an argument is to outlaw freedom of speech... they won't let us in."

Bullshit. Again. You're perfectly free to spout any inane babble that pops into your tiny little minds--which you often do--and that is the reason nobody listens to you. That and you have absolutely no evidence to support any of your ludicrous ideas. All you people ever do is misapply, misinterpret, distort or outright lie about real science so that those just slightly more gullible than yourselves will be duped by it.

"Why is Darwin buried with kings at Westminster Abbey? He's not a king."

The guy described the foundation of modern medicine and agriculture, set the foundation for faster, cheaper and better ways of engineering things and along with its many applications in computer science. I think he's done far more than any King buried there.

Aside from that, Westminster Abby isn't reserved solely for royalty. Shakespeare is also buried at Westminster, as are a number of poets and playwrights. Should they be removed also, or is it just Darwin you have something against?

"He's the king of the atheists' movement, of people who don't want to deal with the guilt that's put on them by sin... it's a weight and a bondage, they become their own God.""

Evolution has nothing to do with atheism. Darwin did not start atheism. Nobody becomes an atheist simply by learning about evolution.

I also find it amusing that you associate your god with guilt. This is quite telling...

6/16/2009 6:53:42 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

Well, that finally settles the issue. A business man makes a claim that all of the work that biologists have done over the centuries is not even a low grade hypothesis.

Should we start dismantling the biology departments in the academia now and "let you in" to replace them with theology classes?

6/16/2009 7:05:05 AM

Danny Noonan

What the fuck is a Robert Mailloux and is it so stupid?

6/16/2009 7:21:16 AM

emau99

[The way liberals and evolutionists win an argument is to outlaw freedom of speech... they won't let us in.]

Can you please provide an example of such?

[Why is Darwin buried with kings at Westminster Abbey? He's not a king.]

Issac Newton is buried there, too, yet you don't have a problem with that. Odd, eh?

[The retired businessman dismisses Darwin's theory as "not even a low grade hypothesis"]

Mr. Mailloux--would you define the word "hypothesis" for me, please?

6/16/2009 7:22:54 AM



There are over 100 ways science is able to look at the Earth and 90 say it is thousands of years old - only 10 say it's real old.

Just like my house.
My couch for example, is three years old, my cellphone a few months. My floor is 6 years old, my bed 8 years. My door is 10 years old, the windows 20. The electric wires are 40 years old Nothing says my house is real old, except one detail.

The huge letters saying AD1862.

Using Robert's logic, my house must be a few decades old, seeing how "most of the evidence says it is".

6/16/2009 7:34:57 AM

pfft

Repeat I know
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6/16/2009 7:42:40 AM

Aethernaut

Yes, because when pursuing serious scientific inquiry the uninformed opinion of a "retired businessman" trumps the evidence every time!

6/16/2009 8:11:03 AM

A Friend

Nothing but old regurgitated creationtard arguments. You fail, at life.

6/16/2009 8:20:46 AM

breakerslion

"There are over 100 ways science is able to look at the Earth and 90 say it is thousands of years old - only 10 say it's real old."

Let me count the ways:

1. Lie

2. Pull numbers out of my ass

3. Quote other unreliable and unsubstantiated sources...

4. Drink the Kool-Aid and quote the Bible....

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Truth is finite, bullshit is infinite.

6/16/2009 8:34:14 AM

Shann

So Darwinism = not even a low grade hypothesis, while creationism, which insists that an invisible superbeing created the world in a matter of days, made the first human from earth and then as an afterthought created a wife for the man using one of his own ribs = proven scientific fact?

Pardon me if I'm a tad skeptical that you possess any intellect whatsoever.

6/16/2009 8:37:25 AM

Got Mayhem?

Yes...he's buried with Newton, King of that crazy 'gravity' movement.

6/16/2009 8:49:13 AM

Allegory for Jesus

"There's over 90 ways to look at the world and come up with the completely wrong answer that is clearly and empathetically disputed by all other evidence of any repute! Therefore, those are perfectly valid perspectives!"

6/16/2009 9:03:30 AM

Zeus Almighty

"The way liberals and evolutionists win an argument is to outlaw freedom of speech... they won't let us in."

Justifiably refusing to teach your fairy tales in science classes is not "outlawing freedom of speech."

Also, there's more scientific thought in what my cat leaves in the litter box than there is in the entire creationism museum.

6/16/2009 9:40:01 AM



"Retired" is the clue word. An old grampy man who was a highschool dropout. The perfect credentials to be a creationist.

6/16/2009 9:55:28 AM

solomongrundy

The way liberals and evolutionists win an argument is to outlaw freedom of speech... they won't let us in.

The reason we don't debate creationists is that it's about as realistic as an anorexic who believes she's over-weight debating her consultant who knows she's dangerously ill. One is obviously wrong and believes there's a conspiracy against her and the other is just as clearly correct.

6/16/2009 10:16:19 AM

Old Viking

I became my own God, but had to give it up. Whenever I failed to go to church on Sunday I'd feel really, really bad.

6/16/2009 10:24:57 AM



What makes a businessman think he's an authority on science?

We can't outlaw free speech; you guys control the country. If free speech was outlawed, you'd be the ones outlawing it.

6/16/2009 10:43:33 AM

Pule Thamex

Robert Mailloux is a particularly stupid specimen, you can't believe a word he says. Most of the things he says are untrue, either deliberately so or because he's lazy and uneducated.

6/16/2009 10:50:17 AM

Giveitaday

The retired businessman dismisses Darwin's theory as "not even a low grade hypothesis" and said it had "no substantial science" in it.

So am I to just take the word of a retired businessman on matters of science? Or should I listen to people who have made said science their life's work? Of course "god" forbid I actually try to learn this science and come to my own conclusion, after all I've had this christian guy tell me what science I should or should not accept.

The Bible says God created the Earth in six days and we flat believe that.

If you wish to live in ignorance then do so, but your ignorance doesn't get to decide what is or is not science, or the conclusion that the scientific community comes to. Science answer questions through observation and experimentation, not by biblical or theological fiat.

There are over 100 ways science is able to look at the Earth and 90 say it is thousands of years old - only 10 say it's real old

And they are what? can you them? can you name ten of them? can you even name one of those ways that conforms to the scientific method and is considered accepted science?

The way liberals and evolutionists win an argument is to outlaw freedom of speech

So would you please point out the law which outlaws young earth creationism? And why do you think this is a "liberal" issue? Political conservatism, religion, and creationism are one in the same, evolutionary theory is apolitical, science is apolitical, they are not left or right issues and neither is religion and the fact that you seem to think they are just goes to show that you, like the rest of the religious right, place ideological purity above everything else, including your religion.

they won't let us in

No, they won't let you in to a science classroom because you don't belong there. Creationism and ID have no science to them, they don't preform any experiments, they have no theories that can be tested, the only thing they do is attack accepted science. That doesn't make something science, nor does it mean that if evolutionary theory was proved to be wrong that creationism would therefore be right. It's simply not an either/or issue.

Why is Darwin buried with kings at Westminster Abbey? He's not a king

Westminster Abbey isn't reserved exclusively for kings, as the plethora of non-royalty interred there attests to. At least bother to check your facts before you go making wild claims about things you obviously no nothing about.

He's the king of the atheists' movement

There is no "atheist's movement", and neither Darwin nor evolutionary theory have anything to do with atheism. Atheism was around long before Darwin or the ToE and the are atheists who don't accept evolution, just as there are theists who do, including the majority of christians.

of people who don't want to deal with the guilt that's put on them by sin... it's a weight and a bondage,

You are aware that atheists neither belive in nor care about your antiquated notion of sin. If they did then they wouldn't be atheists.

they become their own God

Please show me an atheist who claims that they are their own "god" because the only people I've ever heard say that were christians, and a person who believed such a thing would by definition not be an atheist since atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods.

6/16/2009 11:13:50 AM

Saika

Yeah, only no...

6/16/2009 11:21:42 AM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

Um, a lot of famous scientists are buried at Westminster Abbey. Sir Isaac Newton is one of them.

6/16/2009 12:34:03 PM
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