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We aren't bashing homosexuals, we want them to go to heaven unlike the secular world who is leading them straight on the path to hell. So the only hate of homosexuals is from the secular world.

So what laws are being initiated to stop Christian bashing? Zero. The government wants to control what we believe, force us to accept homosexuality, and it won't be long when they'll try to force ministers to marry homosexuals! So your post is again false every way around.

peace4ever, Christian Forums 35 Comments [6/18/2009 6:39:42 PM]
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dpareja

The government is also forcing the rest of us to accept Christians. If you're murdered/assaulted/robbed/raped/etc for being Christian, that's as much a hate crime as when an GLBT person has crimes committed against them because of that.

I seem to remember a passage in your holy book about taking the log out of your own eye before plucking the speck from another's.

6/18/2009 6:52:25 PM

EvoPagan

Ministers being forced to marry homosexuals? Heavens! That puts a whole new spin on the pastor's "wife", doesn't it?

6/18/2009 7:00:38 PM

Painful

Stop me if I'm wrong, but no one is forcing you to accept homosexuality - you can still hate on it all you want, but you can't restrict someone's rights because of their bedroom habits. Civil rights for blacks have been on the books for years, but it doesn't stop people from not accepting them or for some blacks to be reactionary either. Something about this country being FREE.

6/18/2009 7:07:01 PM

AuraTwilight

You want gays to go to heaven by not being gays anymore. That's not the same as actually wanting gays to go to heaven.

"I love you, but first you have to change everything I don't like about you" isn't love.

6/18/2009 7:09:29 PM

EllwyenDarwin

Hatred from the secularists and christians don't bash gays?Funny I got ganged up on once in high school by a couple of football players because word got out from my supposed "best friend" that I am a lesbian. A black eye,two broken ribs and sprained wrist later I learned schools will in fact bend the rules for "good" christian boys all the while putting the blame the victim.I was suspended for a week and half they got two nights detention.
Hatred from secularists my ass.
It's a good think I have so many wonderful christian friends in my life or I'd have a much darker view on religion.

6/18/2009 7:16:54 PM

EllwyenDarwin

Hatred from the secularists and christians don't bash gays?Funny I got ganged up on once in high school by a couple of football players because word got out from my supposed "best friend" that I am a lesbian. A black eye,two broken ribs and sprained wrist later I learned schools will in fact bend the rules for "good" christian boys all the while putting the blame the victim.I was suspended for a week and half they got two nights detention.
Hatred from secularists my ass.
It's a good think I have so many wonderful christian friends in my life or I'd have a much darker view on religion.

6/18/2009 7:17:40 PM

Mudak

I don't believe in heaven or hell, but I'm aware that this exact same saying exists in English, German, and Russian, so it's got to come from a common origin and a pervasive one at that:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. That sounds more like people trying to get others to go to heaven than a couple of people trying to satisfy one of their most basic needs.

6/18/2009 7:30:45 PM

JSS

"We aren't bashing homosexuals, we want them to go to heaven unlike the secular world who is leading them straight on the path to hell. So the only hate of homosexuals is from the secular world."

So if it were up to you all homosexuals would enter heaven, but since it's up to God they won't get into heaven, but must spend eternity in a lake of fire. But wait, aren't you guys supposed to be less loving than your god whom you say is infinitely merciful?

Oh sorry. I forgot. Your biblical god has the mental state of a six-year-old throwing a tantrum when he doesn't get his way, kind of like the one from that old Twilight Zone episode.



And yes, the secular world is so hateful to gays, what with how they don't judge a person by their sexuality, how with all the problems in the world, their top priority isn't "teh ghey", how they don't preach "God hates fags!" like the above photo.

"So what laws are being initiated to stop Christian bashing? Zero. The government wants to control what we believe, force us to accept homosexuality, and it won't be long when they'll try to force ministers to marry homosexuals! So your post is again false every way around."

Sorry christofascist"peace"4ever, but I think you're going to have to cry your own river, build your own bridge, and get over it. There are in fact many people who defend your right to preach, one group of which you say is of the devil.


6/18/2009 7:43:36 PM

WMDKitty

Uh... you CHOOSE to be a Christoholic.

NOBODY CHOOSES TO BE GAY/LESBIAN/BISEXUAL/TRANSGENDERED/INTERSEX (or anything else I might have missed).

6/18/2009 8:10:14 PM

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6/18/2009 8:13:27 PM

Pule Thamex

Yes, all very nice, I'm sure. However, the secular world is the real world. The mystical world that you like to fantasize about is not real. just pretend. How do I know? Because there is no evidence of God or Satan or demons and angels or of heaven and hell.

Of course, it's possible to believe that these things exist or, equally, that they don't exist, and you have chosen the path of the mystic. Being anti homosexual just because it suits the coherence of your mystical world is as abhorrent as is being anti homosexual in the real world.

That's the problem with your mystical fantasizing, it seems harmless enough an indulgence on the surface but if taken to extremes it leads to zealotry, fanaticism, and fundamentalism. All this waffle about God and Jesus that fundamentalists indulge in is hardly germane to the well being of individuals or societies and just causes fundamentalists to become loonies and disrupts the harmony of nations.

As you said, not everyone who claims to be Christian is. The fundamental cultists pretend to be Christians but they are not, they are arseholes. The fundamentalist cults hang desperately on to the coattails of Christianity to try and give themselves some legitimacy. Of course, they fail dismally.

You claim that there is persecution of Christians, and yet you are not a Christian but a pretentious wannabe-Christian-fundie. A persecution complex is a fundie characteristic.

Modern Christianity is far more practical and reasonable then rabid fundamentalism and the modern Christian does not feel persecuted. Nor does the modern Christian feel the childish need for the bible to be taken as being literally correct. The bible's lack of consistency is legendary and is considered something of a joke, as are fundies.

The best thing about fundamental cultism from the point of view of society as a whole is that it is so abhorrent a creed, so obviously full of deceit, distortion and lies, that it is turning people off religion and forcing them to deal with reality. Hooray!

6/18/2009 8:15:08 PM

Papabear

Just because same-sex marriages are becoming legal doesn't mean your idiot Church has to marry them. Churches can turn down any couple wishing to get married. Legalizing same-sex marriage makes it legal, not manditory.

6/18/2009 8:41:55 PM

Porky Pine

The fear of teh ghay is strong in this one.

6/18/2009 9:38:26 PM

Thinking Allowed

Hate speech is still hate speech regardless of what group it's against.

As for the government "forcing ministers to marry homosexuals", that clearly goes against the first amendment.

6/18/2009 10:08:28 PM

Nathan the Wise

So what laws are being initiated to stop Christian bashing? Zero /eq

Religion and race are already included in the existing hate-crimes legislation. The new legislation seeks to add LGBT to the categories already existing.

I know this. I'm not a legal expert. I'm not even American. So how come peace4ever doesn't know this?

6/18/2009 11:44:24 PM

The Jamo

We aren't bashing homosexuals, we want them to go to heaven unlike the secular world who is leading them straight on the path to hell.

Right, because there is undisputed evidence that heaven and hell are actual places you can go to.

So the only hate of homosexuals is from the secular world.

That's right, we hate them by helping them fight for their right to be treated like normal human beings; whereas you bash them to send them to heaven. Yes, that makes a lot of sense.

So what laws are being initiated to stop Christian bashing? Zero.

Laws to stop bashing? No one has the right to bash anyone, you cretin!

The government wants to control what we believe, force us to accept homosexuality, and it won't be long when they'll try to force ministers to marry homosexuals!

You don't have to accept anything... all you are expected to do is treat people with respect and courtesy and keep your nose out of their lives. Is that too hard for you?

So your post is again false every way around.

Whoa. Hold it right there. Why don't we begin with the review of your post. For more details, read from the beginning of mine.

6/19/2009 12:23:23 AM

Thundersqueaks

Wanting to execute homosexuals is not the same as wanting them to go to heaven.

"The government wants to control what we believe, force us to accept homosexuality"

You've got that arse about face, dear. It's your kind who are trying to force the government not to accept homosexuality.

6/19/2009 2:55:17 AM

aaa

Oh, for fucks sake.

6/19/2009 3:27:15 AM

nutbunny

I don't bash Christians, just Christianity.

6/19/2009 5:05:20 AM

Mister Spak

Christianists are bashing homosexuals as well as secular society. So the only hhate of homosexuals is from the christianist world.

So what group is resisting hate crimes again? The christianists. They want to control what everyone does and believes so they comint election fraud to take over the country, force us to accept their stupidity, and it won't be long until they'll try to force ministers to not marry homosexuals. So your post is again false every way around.

6/19/2009 5:16:27 AM

Rev. Dread

We aren't bashing homosexuals, we are just beating the crap out of them because they are different and they scare us.

6/19/2009 5:37:22 AM



We aren't bashing homosexuals, we want them to go to heaven

Yeah, well, want in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up first.

You people are just the living end. I can picture you as a drunk, leacherous husband beating his wife while telling her repeatedly "I love you, honey. This is for your own good."

Fucking assholes every one of you.

6/19/2009 5:56:48 AM

Kristy

"... it won't be long when they'll try to force ministers to marry homosexuals!"

Now that's one shotgun wedding I'd love to see!

Wait! Maybe it's happened already! From AFP News:

"LONDON (AFP) — The Church of England said Saturday that two gay priests may have broken its rules, after a newspaper report that they exchanged vows and rings in Britain's first ever church "wedding" ceremony.

The Sunday Telegraph said clerics Peter Cowell and David Lord "married" at one of England's oldest churches -- Saint Bartholomew the Great in London -- last month, using one of the church's most traditional wedding rites."

Good for them!

6/19/2009 6:06:06 AM

observiNG

We aren't bashing homosexuals, we want them to go to heaven unlike the secular world who is leading them straight on the path to hell.

Is it also the secular world who says they are going to hell to be tortured eternally? Riiiiight, no hatred here at all...

So what laws are being initiated to stop Christian bashing? Zero.

Correct. They are already in place.

The government wants to control what we believe, force us to accept homosexuality, and it won't be long when they'll try to force ministers to marry homosexuals!

Get a tinfoil hat.

6/19/2009 6:45:05 AM

FMG

Its choice. I don't like homosexuality because I don't find men attractive. I am unlikely to sleep with a dude. I however understand that men exist who like men.

6/19/2009 6:52:25 AM
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