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#973293
Skaloop
How about when there's a church shooting? Has God been banned there, as well?
6/18/2009 6:45:01 PM
#973295
Philbert McAdamia
Iron chariots and school principals. The wimp is powerless against them.
6/18/2009 6:48:09 PM
#973305
Porter
What about omnipotence?
NATURE OF GOD FAIL.
6/18/2009 6:55:59 PM
#973309
EvoPagan
ToE doesn't say anything about how life began, just how it evolved.
People say "where was god" whenever they get a baby born with genetic defects, yet they go ballistic over abortion...go figure.
6/18/2009 7:02:04 PM
#973310
"It is interesting because that is exactly what the humanist are using schools for. to indoctrinate our children with the Humanist doctrine."
Yes, how dare they teach our kids to value other human beings and respect mankind's achievements instead of making them kneel on broomsticks and praise the lord all day.
"also there is no such thing as separation of church and state in the constitution."
You guys can twist words to try to make this lie into truth all you want, but however you word it, our constitution clearly states that the government is forbidden to promote ANY religion (and no, learning about the different religions in school is NOT promoting them. Teaching that YOUR god created everything as though it is a scientific theory, IS).
"Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools."
I usually hear people say things like "where were the parents" or something of that nature, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. And why do you guys think that god can be "banned" from anything? Why is your god so helpless against our laws? Doesn't sound like much of a god to me.
6/18/2009 7:03:08 PM
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6/18/2009 7:04:43 PM
#973316
AuraTwilight
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ."
You were saying?
6/18/2009 7:08:21 PM
#973329
Mudak
I've never asked, after any tragedy, "where was god." You know why? Because god doesn't exist. The answer to that question, in good times and bad, is always the same: nowhere.
6/18/2009 7:27:59 PM
#973330
Orestes
>that there is no god, that we all came from monkeys. If it feels good do it.
Well, at least you were one for three, but the second is typical fundie garbage, and I'm not even sure where the hell you got the third.
6/18/2009 7:28:21 PM
#973331
Mayhem
So are you upset that you feel that schools are indoctrinating, or that they are just not indoctrinating YOUR beliefs?
6/18/2009 7:28:32 PM
#973332
The Skeptic Wept
Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god"
Does anyone else get a creepy feeling that this guy "loves" whenever there's a school shooting?
6/18/2009 7:28:49 PM
#973339
Dio Fa
Isn't the Christian god supposed to be omnipresent?
6/18/2009 7:32:39 PM
#973344
rubber chicken
God has been banned from your schools because elderly men who hang around schoolyards are not generally considered to have the wellbeing of children in mind.
6/18/2009 7:45:50 PM
#973349
Zoo
The exact phrase may not be there, but the CONCEPT of separation very much is. What's so damned hard for you guys to understand about that?
6/18/2009 8:01:20 PM
#973356
WMDKitty
I finally figured out why they keep going on about "indoctrination" -- they're projecting what *they* want to do to the kids onto the atheists/gays/flavor-of-the-week.
6/18/2009 8:13:05 PM
#973360
Ken
There are two sides to this but they are not equal. One has scientific observation and the other has a storybook. Teaching creation is teaching religion, which is not allowed in public schools.
6/18/2009 8:17:20 PM
#973367
Papabear
Oh, by both sides of the argument, you mean the facts and the crap. I get it now.
6/18/2009 8:37:48 PM
#973377
DarkfireTaimatsu
well my friends, you have banned god from the schools
So much for the whole "omnipotent and omnipresent" thing.
6/18/2009 8:57:14 PM
#973392
Sasha
Your god can be banned from schools by mere mortals? Why do you worship such a crap god?
6/18/2009 9:23:36 PM
#973401
Porky Pine
"Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools."
And a omnipotent god is powerless against a ban.
Riiiiiiiggggttt!
6/18/2009 9:36:59 PM
#973410
freako104
Tiller was shot in a church. Not long ago, a pastor was shot in a church. Where is your argument on that shit you fuck? Word for word it isn't there, but it does say no one religion over another (Congress shall make no law endorising a religion). Whoops. Churches are used for indoctrination as well
6/18/2009 9:44:34 PM
#973419
There aren't two sides to be taught on the issue of your god, there are billions. Arguably one for every religious person who has ever existed.
There are no sides to the issue of [G/g]od[s] in schools, though. Reality has been observed, and that's what public schooling is based on. God has not been observed as part of reality, and so has no place where science is being taught.
You have your bible history classes, your seminaries, and your Christian schools. Either be content with that or be content with every religion having their influence in the public school system as well. Would you really prefer that over none? Let schools be for education, and churches for gods.
Now, religion aside, concerning political indoctrination I rather agree with you, though the word indoctrination may be a bit strong for the most of it. Only most. Too many teachers are touting their opinions above the course materials, including not only liberal teachers but also conservative ones. The U.S. public school system was created to have informed voters so that the democracy might function, not as a stage from which to spread your opinions.
6/18/2009 10:01:26 PM
#973420
Thinking Allowed
Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools.
God(s) is/are not banned from schools, public or private. Students are free to silently pray to themselves, and form groups that are not endorsed by the school systems (in the case of public institutions).
6/18/2009 10:02:56 PM
#973421
Vince
hearing every side of the issue is great, fine, whatever.
however, you keep talking about this "both sides" thing like there are two sides. no one is going to teach what the scientific community has known to be total shit for hundreds of years.
can you imagine a science class where after the teacher finishes his lesson he has some required second lesson.
"and that's about the end of our cretaceous section, and. oh, sorry, also it's possible magic man dun it. for next weeks class..."
6/18/2009 10:05:36 PM
#973423
musicalbookworm
You do realize you are saying mere mortals are more powerful than an allegedly omnipotent being right?
6/18/2009 10:06:17 PM
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