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I read a comment by a lady before writing this that says schools are for learning and not indoctrination. It is interesting because that is exactly what the humanist are using schools for. to indoctrinate our children with the Humanist doctrine. that there is no god, that we all came from monkeys. If it feels good do it. The least these schools can do is show both sides of the argument instead of showing there own side.

also there is no such thing as separation of church and state in the constitution.

Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools.

andrew L, Y! answers 45 Comments [6/18/2009 6:40:18 PM]
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Skaloop

How about when there's a church shooting? Has God been banned there, as well?

6/18/2009 6:45:01 PM

Philbert McAdamia

Iron chariots and school principals. The wimp is powerless against them.

6/18/2009 6:48:09 PM

Porter

What about omnipotence?

NATURE OF GOD FAIL.

6/18/2009 6:55:59 PM

EvoPagan

ToE doesn't say anything about how life began, just how it evolved.

People say "where was god" whenever they get a baby born with genetic defects, yet they go ballistic over abortion...go figure.

6/18/2009 7:02:04 PM



"It is interesting because that is exactly what the humanist are using schools for. to indoctrinate our children with the Humanist doctrine."

Yes, how dare they teach our kids to value other human beings and respect mankind's achievements instead of making them kneel on broomsticks and praise the lord all day.

"also there is no such thing as separation of church and state in the constitution."

You guys can twist words to try to make this lie into truth all you want, but however you word it, our constitution clearly states that the government is forbidden to promote ANY religion (and no, learning about the different religions in school is NOT promoting them. Teaching that YOUR god created everything as though it is a scientific theory, IS).

"Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools."

I usually hear people say things like "where were the parents" or something of that nature, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. And why do you guys think that god can be "banned" from anything? Why is your god so helpless against our laws? Doesn't sound like much of a god to me.

6/18/2009 7:03:08 PM





6/18/2009 7:04:43 PM

AuraTwilight

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ."

You were saying?

6/18/2009 7:08:21 PM

Mudak

I've never asked, after any tragedy, "where was god." You know why? Because god doesn't exist. The answer to that question, in good times and bad, is always the same: nowhere.

6/18/2009 7:27:59 PM

Orestes

>that there is no god, that we all came from monkeys. If it feels good do it.

Well, at least you were one for three, but the second is typical fundie garbage, and I'm not even sure where the hell you got the third.

6/18/2009 7:28:21 PM

Mayhem

So are you upset that you feel that schools are indoctrinating, or that they are just not indoctrinating YOUR beliefs?

6/18/2009 7:28:32 PM

The Skeptic Wept

Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god"

Does anyone else get a creepy feeling that this guy "loves" whenever there's a school shooting?

6/18/2009 7:28:49 PM

Dio Fa

Isn't the Christian god supposed to be omnipresent?

6/18/2009 7:32:39 PM

rubber chicken

God has been banned from your schools because elderly men who hang around schoolyards are not generally considered to have the wellbeing of children in mind.

6/18/2009 7:45:50 PM

Zoo

The exact phrase may not be there, but the CONCEPT of separation very much is. What's so damned hard for you guys to understand about that?

6/18/2009 8:01:20 PM

WMDKitty

I finally figured out why they keep going on about "indoctrination" -- they're projecting what *they* want to do to the kids onto the atheists/gays/flavor-of-the-week.

6/18/2009 8:13:05 PM

Ken

There are two sides to this but they are not equal. One has scientific observation and the other has a storybook. Teaching creation is teaching religion, which is not allowed in public schools.

6/18/2009 8:17:20 PM

Papabear

Oh, by both sides of the argument, you mean the facts and the crap. I get it now.

6/18/2009 8:37:48 PM

DarkfireTaimatsu

well my friends, you have banned god from the schools

So much for the whole "omnipotent and omnipresent" thing.

6/18/2009 8:57:14 PM

Sasha

Your god can be banned from schools by mere mortals? Why do you worship such a crap god?

6/18/2009 9:23:36 PM

Porky Pine

"Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools."

And a omnipotent god is powerless against a ban.


Riiiiiiiggggttt!


6/18/2009 9:36:59 PM

freako104

Tiller was shot in a church. Not long ago, a pastor was shot in a church. Where is your argument on that shit you fuck? Word for word it isn't there, but it does say no one religion over another (Congress shall make no law endorising a religion). Whoops. Churches are used for indoctrination as well

6/18/2009 9:44:34 PM



There aren't two sides to be taught on the issue of your god, there are billions. Arguably one for every religious person who has ever existed.

There are no sides to the issue of [G/g]od[s] in schools, though. Reality has been observed, and that's what public schooling is based on. God has not been observed as part of reality, and so has no place where science is being taught.
You have your bible history classes, your seminaries, and your Christian schools. Either be content with that or be content with every religion having their influence in the public school system as well. Would you really prefer that over none? Let schools be for education, and churches for gods.

Now, religion aside, concerning political indoctrination I rather agree with you, though the word indoctrination may be a bit strong for the most of it. Only most. Too many teachers are touting their opinions above the course materials, including not only liberal teachers but also conservative ones. The U.S. public school system was created to have informed voters so that the democracy might function, not as a stage from which to spread your opinions.

6/18/2009 10:01:26 PM

Thinking Allowed

Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools.

God(s) is/are not banned from schools, public or private. Students are free to silently pray to themselves, and form groups that are not endorsed by the school systems (in the case of public institutions).

6/18/2009 10:02:56 PM

Vince

hearing every side of the issue is great, fine, whatever.

however, you keep talking about this "both sides" thing like there are two sides. no one is going to teach what the scientific community has known to be total shit for hundreds of years.

can you imagine a science class where after the teacher finishes his lesson he has some required second lesson.
"and that's about the end of our cretaceous section, and. oh, sorry, also it's possible magic man dun it. for next weeks class..."

6/18/2009 10:05:36 PM

musicalbookworm

You do realize you are saying mere mortals are more powerful than an allegedly omnipotent being right?

6/18/2009 10:06:17 PM
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