(Response #5 to a blog entry on Bad Astronomy.)
I predict a major malfunction of LRO. Silence is an easy cover for lies.
Japan recently crashed its Kaguya Lunar Orbiter on the surface of the moon.
Despite Japan being the leader in camera technology, Kaguya, strangely, did not carry a camera with sufficient resolution to photograph Apollo landing site remnants.
This week, the Americans will launch the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter from Cape Canaveral whose main mission is to silence moon hoax conspiracists. It is scheduled for a four-day journey to the moon whereupon it will conduct a one-year mission to survey the moon. The LRO is allegedly carrying a camera with ample resolution to photograph Apollo landing site remnants.
Although several lunar orbiters have been sent to the moon by the United States and other nations, strangely, not a single orbiter since Lunar Orbiter 5, sent to the moon by the United States in 1967, has carried a camera with sufficient resolution to photograph objects the size of Apollo remnants. Unfortunately, in 1967 there were no alleged Apollo remnants yet on the moon.
One of the pillars of the scientific method is independent verification. If Apollo was a NASA lie, the same people that lied are doing the verification. Sad.
Neil, Bad Astronomy 14 Comments
[6/21/2009 1:06:52 PM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.
Neil, this shit is old and tired. Give it both barrels and we won't lie to you.
6/21/2009 2:11:50 PM
Nathan the Wise
I hope Phil ripped him a new one. Pity Buzz Aldrin's getting a bit too old to punch guys out these days.
6/21/2009 2:19:22 PM
wasn't the first moon landing in 1969?
6/21/2009 2:58:49 PM
It's not a matter of camera resolution ; it's a question of why space agencies should waste precious resources taking useless snapshots of old equipment, when even that won't satisfy the conspiracy nuts.
6/21/2009 5:05:27 PM
You realise that they left mirrors right? You can just get yourself a 1000$ laser (probably much cheaper), point it at the special mirrors left there and get a beam back.
6/21/2009 5:51:38 PM
And that's not even touching on the Holocaust denial this guy throws in there...
Another "teh Jews r teh ebil!" troll shows up in that thread, too. Ay yi yi...
6/21/2009 6:10:17 PM
WOw! you're way off here, buddy.
The purpose of the NASA LRO is not to prove something we already know. What a waste of money that would be. The primary purpose of our latest moon launch is to discover whether or not water ice is present beneath the surface. The rocket is a two-parter. one to impact and send up debris, the other to follow, collect, and analyze the debris for water. and I don't know why I'm explaining this to you because even in the very very off-chance you read this, you won't believe it anyway.
Please, go on being a retard. Your ignorance is our comedy. Please continue.
6/21/2009 7:55:39 PM
"If Apollo was a NASA lie, the same people that lied are doing the verification."
Hell no they aren't.
Apollo was 40 years ago. Those guys are all retired now. It's a whole bunch of other guys now.
By the way, if the government didn't have the technology or money or whatever it is they needed to land on the moon, how is it that they managed to pull off the longest, most widespread hoax ever? And why did they do it? Do you have any clue how many people they would have needed to pay off? Government employees, contractor employees, independent university scientists, astronomers, amateur radio operators, etc...
Not to mention the folks in other countries. How did the U.S. government manage to keep the Soviets quiet about landing on the moon. If there was one bit of credible evidence that we did not land on the moon, why did the Soviets not trot out one of the biggest propaganda points they could ever have had in the late 60's, early 70's?
Seriously, it would be cheaper and easier to go to the moon, land, and come back then it would be to fake everything needed to pull off a faked moon landing.
And why would NASA need to take photographs of the Apollo landing sites? They know what went to the moon. They have detailed drawings of every single piece of hardware that left the Earth. They have photographs of it all on the moon. They know what's there, they know where it is, they don't need to take pictures of it. That's kinda stupid, really. That's like taking a vacation to the Grand Canyon, taking a bunch of pictures there, and then flying home, and taking a picture of it from the airplane to prove you've been there. The only reason to take the pictures would be to show your dumb asses. And then, they'd show you the pictures, and you'd claim they were faked anyway.
NASA, Johnson Space Center
(lying to you for government money since 1961...)
6/21/2009 8:18:59 PM
The Japanese, nevertheless, were not intelligent enough to let Neil find the truth. Or maybe they let him, even though he never has been to Japan because his credibility would be questionable with the first utterance?
6/22/2009 10:05:58 AM
Bad Astronomy...that's a fitting name for the drivel you're spouting.
6/22/2009 1:55:29 PM
Dr. Razark, with all due respect, I have to disagree with you. The most widespread hoax ever would be religion (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam being the brightest examples). After all, people have sincerely believed in that nonsense for millenia, and continue to do so today.
6/24/2009 9:19:23 AM
Later on in the thread he explains why the holocaust is a hoax, too.
6/25/2009 1:10:01 PM
As we see over and over again a division is created intentionally by people who could easily end all discussion about the moon hoax, 9/11, etc. It is not their intention to ever release evidence to support or disprove either side. Instead we see the same M.O. for example...The Pentagon - The most secure building on the planet. every inch INSIDE and OUT are being recorded. So if they wanted to shove it down the Truthers throat, it would only take then the release of the other from 20-30 videos of course all of which would be undeniable. But that would stop the internal fighting between Americans BOTH of which need to agree to disagree, but agree that they must tolerate each others constitutional right to express their personal views without fear of retaliation. But MOST important understand everything the gov (when it cones to the smoking gun) is done with intent. Releasing a few frames of a security camera, and knowingly removing frames so the time code does not match. Do you think they are dumb? No, but what they don't understand is the ability of Americans that are facing loosing their personal liberty's will join together and put their differences aside. Both sides should be PISSED that your government engages in this foolish game. YOU KNOW THEIR ARE VIDEOS THAT THEY WONT RELEASE. Those videos are the property of the American people, that were tricked into putting their lives on the line for a government that will stop at nothing to keep us fighting each other. I for one will not take part in childish name calling when we both know you cant say with 100% assurance until your given ALL the evidence.
I for one love this country and am an Air Force vet. I still practice the core competencies I learned while serving. My decisions and my word come from the heart and are said with good intentions. I'm not afraid to admit it when I'm wrong. I know those with good intentions will agree with me, those who choose to continue the games and name calling will show their true intentions.
2/26/2010 7:55:51 PM
"Japan recently crashed its Kaguya Lunar Orbiter on the surface of the moon."
Well, Yagokoro Eirin and the NEET-hime probably won't be happy to hear that.
(Any Touhou fans here on FSTDT?)
8/10/2010 9:47:03 PM