Quote# 63463

I had a dream last night in a Star Trek vein (be patient--this relates to the topic). In it, someone was explaining to someone how the Russians had finally "grown up", and were actually major builders of starships. A bunch of other stuff went on, but I want to focus on that point about society growing up. The dream that if we could just all get together and behave ourselves socially is at the very heart of socialism. Socialism believes Man's basic problem is that he has a social flaw, and if we build a perfect society, we'll have a perfect world. Star Trek is an example of that thinking.

Problem is, socialism runs contrary to Scripture. Per the Word of God, Mankind does not have a social flaw, but rather has a moral flaw.

What Obama is doing is socialism. He is a die-hard socialist.

I believe that a true socialist CANNOT be a Christian, and visa-versa, because they have as foundational core beliefs two conflicting worldviews....

The problem at the heart of the matter is this: he has (fatally) misdiagnosed Man's problem. His every action and decision made in a socialist manner will only accelerate ushering in the reign of the Antichrist where everyone will be forced to get along by uniting everyone under one man, the Antichrist. It is the socialist's ultimate dream, but Mankind's ultimate nightmare.

You want to find socialism in the Bible? Look no further than the Tower of Babel.

sirgak, Rapture Ready 104 Comments [6/24/2009 10:29:03 PM]
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You want to find socialism in the bible, look no further than every guideline and principle attributed to the fable-istic character ""Jesus".

6/24/2009 10:41:20 PM


If Obama was a "die-hard socialist", why would every major corporation donate money to his campaign? He uses Keynesian economics at best.

Also, socialism is a economic system not a political system.

6/24/2009 10:54:43 PM


"Sell all that you have and give the money to the poor". Who said that? "If you have two coats, give one away." Who said THAT?

To argue that Christianity is not about socialism is to miss one of the integral points of the whole thing.

6/24/2009 10:55:03 PM


Got news for ya: Jesus was a socialist liberal long-haired hippie.

6/24/2009 11:06:29 PM


This one goes high on the list of stupidest things I've ever read. It even places high in the Raptard division.

Made up "Scripture". Multiple non sequitors. Mistaking belief for knowledge and bogus authority.

sirgak hit them all.

6/24/2009 11:06:38 PM


I hate when people use "per" to mean "from."

I know such a usage can be technically correct, but it's still pretentious - especially coming from a retarded asshat like Sirgak.

6/24/2009 11:07:01 PM

Lord X

Anti-socialism is not what I got from the Tower of Babel. In fact, I got two things: First, an explanation for different languages and second, people working together for a great goal is bad and God fears it.

6/24/2009 11:10:18 PM

Dio Fa

A socialist? You're fucking ridiculous. A socialist would have never pushed for the wage and benefit cuts he forced on the auto workers' union to help bail out General Motors and Chrysler.

You have two parties in the United States. One is right of center, the other is WAY right of center. Your perspective is warped from a lifetime of government and religious propaganda against anything resembling liberal thinking, not to mention all that post-war bullshit, commonly known as The Red Scare.

6/24/2009 11:12:27 PM


WMDKitty: And gay or bi. Don't forget that.

6/24/2009 11:13:58 PM

Thinking Allowed

I wonder is sirgak realizes that Jesus was socialist.

6/24/2009 11:18:51 PM

Mrs. Antichrist

So you're saying that god wants us to be at odds with one another instead of sharing, lest he knock down our tower? God sounds like that bully on the beach who spots a group of kids cooperating to build a huge sandcastle, and decides to stomp over and kick it down...

How can someone spend so much time pouring over the gospel of Jesus and still manage to completely miss the point of his sermons entirely?

6/24/2009 11:22:41 PM

Sideways Eight

Uhhh, Russian Soyuz rockets have been launched since 1966. I wouldn't trust anything else if I were visiting the ISS. They're pretty dependable spacecraft. Also, I must commend you on your reading comprehension with the Bible and everything.. Did you also think "Catcher In the Rye" was about baseball?

6/24/2009 11:28:13 PM


@Lord X
Actually what I got was the reasons behind differnt langauges and God stopping people from spending all their effort on trying to walk to heaven. (AKA spend time living, quit waiting for Heaven... Like what the above do)

(I'm sure the Raptards would love to have a stairway to heaven, but for them it would need to be an esclator because they're to fat to walk))

6/25/2009 12:06:38 AM


Someone clearly hasn't heard about the social gospel.

6/25/2009 12:14:39 AM

Paschal Wagner

Socialism believes Man's basic problem is that he has a social flaw

Go straight to a dictionary. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 rubles.

6/25/2009 12:28:35 AM


Ah, so the Christian ideal is for us to all divide and behave immaturely? Thanks for clearing that up.


6/25/2009 12:43:55 AM



That's a load of Gagh!

6/25/2009 12:54:23 AM

You can also find socialism in the teachings of Jesus.

6/25/2009 12:55:05 AM


Getting along is bad!

Now pardon me while I find a nice, sturdy brick to bash into my skull until I can understand your reasoning.

6/25/2009 1:02:16 AM

Philbert McAdamia

Can't we all just get along?___________Rodney King

Fucking socialist!

6/25/2009 1:12:49 AM

Doomie 22

"The dream that if we could just all get together and behave ourselves socially is at the very heart of socialism."

This is the real reason socialism fails: a false premise. Fundies will never allow the world to just get along, not as long as people have the audacity to not be just like them.

6/25/2009 1:23:41 AM


what the hell do people on RR think socialism is exactly?
have they ever read one definition on it or what?
socialism isn't about making a perfect anything, its about everyone helping everyone else to better everyone's lives.
anyone who says jesus is not a socialist by the definition of socialism has no clue what socialism is!

6/25/2009 1:30:27 AM

"You want to find socialism in the Bible? Look no further than the Tower of Babel."
You mean the story where God was so terrified of what a united humanity could do that he scrambled the world's languages?

... not really the best example there, buddy...

6/25/2009 1:40:51 AM

Tolpuddle Martyr

The Russian state is no longer socialist.

You do not know what a socialist is.

Obama is not a socialist.

The society in Star Trek was, arguably, socialist.

Everything else is wrong.

6/25/2009 1:44:06 AM


Do you mean to say that a society striving for the common good is a bad thing and god wanting us to be fighting/arguing is a good thing?

If so, you are one crazy idiot.

6/25/2009 1:49:49 AM

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