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If we were to teach a child not to steal cars - would we first teach them all the safe ways to steal cars without getting caught? How to open a car door without the alarm going off, how to avade the police, how to start the engine without the key etc... Of course we don't. We just say 'don't do it' and we expect the child not too. So why is it different for sex [ed]?

British One, Christian Forums 25 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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#160080
Øyvind

Sex Ed is different because unlike car stealing, sex is not only unavoidable but also necessary for our survival.

2/12/2007 9:01:30 PM
#160099
JaredM

Inapposite Analogy of the Month Award, anyone?

Seriously, how brain-damaged do you need to be to think that sex = stealing cars? Not to mention the fact that such a view is unscriptural anyway.

2/12/2007 9:11:26 PM
#160178
Blue Lithium

Because sex isn't bad.

2/12/2007 9:48:57 PM
#160195
Captain Janeway

That settles it! No driving before marriage!

2/12/2007 10:02:10 PM
#160944
fuzon

\"So why is it different for sex [ed]? \"

1. Sex is legal.

2. As Øyvind stated, it's necessary for our survival.

3. Sex ed programs DON'T teach people how to have sex and then try to teach them not to, no matter how 'ungodly' the school.

4. I've never felt a biological urge to steal cars, but I sure as hell feel the urge to fuck my wife on a regular basis.

5. Teaching kids how to have sex and avoid being caught by anyone in authority is NOT the purpose of sex ed.

6. Sex ed DOES try to teach kids how to behave responsibly once they're naked, the SAME way driver's ed tries to teach them how to behave responsibly once they're behind the wheel of a car.

You see, the sex ed/car analogy holds up, just not the way you intended.

2/14/2007 3:27:01 PM
#161091


Couse the inclanation to have sex is a normal urge that everybody has while stealing cars is wrong! and we don
t have a biological urge to do it.

2/14/2007 6:26:20 PM
#161108
BurntBush

I know all of those things, and I don't steal cars. Being an atheist, though I guess I have higher standards of behavior.

2/14/2007 6:43:15 PM
#161166
David D.G.

I agree with fuzon. Sex Ed should be seen as sort of the equivalent of Driver's Ed, in that the point is to teach them what's expected and how to be safe in doing it.

But I imagine that, if it were truly treated as an equivalent to Driver's Ed, the films would be a LOT more interesting -- not to mention \"parking practice\"!


~David D.G.

2/14/2007 8:12:51 PM
#161210
Sinister Minister

Because eventually they will need to know how to Do It. They will never need to know how to steal cars.


And if you tell your children having sex is the equivalent to theft, you are setting them up for a disfunctional adulthood.

2/14/2007 9:18:58 PM
#161310
Pix

Because consensual sex is legal. Next?

2/14/2007 11:59:49 PM
#296952
GigaGuess

Ummmm...sex isn't illegal? Start with the fact that both parties are consenting?

9/28/2007 12:00:46 PM
#296962
Puck

I'm surprised that these people allow their children to defecate.


9/28/2007 12:14:21 PM
#304367
cyborgtroy

Dude, I don't even know how to have sex. "Abstinence-only"! Fools.

10/8/2007 5:24:56 PM
#304378
skyotter

it's a good thing humans never had sex before cars were invented, otherwise that analogy would fail!

oh. wait ...

10/8/2007 5:41:20 PM
#304437
King Duncan

Cuz cars don't give you STDs.
Unless you're autoerotic.

10/8/2007 6:57:47 PM
#304472
Mr. Saturday

If that's how morality works, why do we have car thieves? Dipwad.

10/8/2007 7:23:16 PM
#304635
Mr_Vorhias

To allow for equal time, here's a metaphor for abstinence-only education:

"Welcome to abstinence-only driving school, kids! Now it's been proven that seatbelts are not completely effective all the time, so the only way to avoid getting into a car accident is not to drive ever....class dismissed!"

10/8/2007 11:29:46 PM
#304648
Viva

Because people owns their bodies, is that so difficult to understand

10/8/2007 11:40:36 PM
#304660
anti-nonsense

that is a throughally retarded analogy.

You give brits a bad name.

10/8/2007 11:58:38 PM
#378940
cyborgtroy

Because having sex is actually really important in the big picture? Whereas nobody ever really needs to steal cars?

1/11/2008 6:11:12 AM
#378951
melange

Wow, you're fucked up.

1/11/2008 6:36:27 AM
#378969
apYrs

kids are going to have sex with or without advice. It's the primary driving force in nature. Sex happens even if death follows. Sex especially happens with boys and girls because there are all those hormones washing around that they don't know how to control. 14 year old boys can get a hard-on just by sitting down!

So you can try to teach them abstinence (only good to avoid emotional entanglements), but you also teach them the consequences of their actions, and how to mitigate them.

Few people would advocate young-teen sex because it has emotional and other consequences, but we live in the real world: they will do it, so we must protect them.

@anti-nonsense: I did't realise that this twit originated in the UK. I thought we had a slightly more adult view of sex-ed. I was wrong: obviously!

1/11/2008 7:19:32 AM
#685547
Detrs

I think that may be one of the worst analogies I've ever seen.

9/15/2008 3:15:06 PM
#816183
aaa

I find that stuff very handy.

12/18/2008 11:34:07 AM
#1023270
LDM

I was taught how to balance a checkbook years before I was old enough to have one. I was taught how to manage money long before I moved out on my own. I was taught to drive well before I had my own car. And when the time came to do all those things, I was ready. That's the idea of education-to prepare children for adult life. It's the same with sex, we may not want our children having it now, but they need to be ready when the time comes. We want them to eventually start having sex responsibly, we don't want them ever stealing cars. So your analogy is an epic fail.

9/19/2009 5:10:49 AM
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