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Questioning today’s Holy Bible is just as rebellious as questioning ones gender. God did it right the first time. A man-made makeover brings “confusion” and defaces and mutilates God’s creation. Only pride and perversion would propel men to presume that they could improve upon God’s own handiwork. This book will bring Greek and Hebrew study out of the closet for the first time. Tumbling out come the starving skeletons of the authors of Greek and Hebrew study tools, lexicons and editions, the sordid sources from which new versions, such as the NIV, TNIV, NKJV, ESV, NASB, and HCSB take their corrupt words. These are the very same study ‘aids’ which kill a sermon or Bible study when used to ‘define’ a word in the Holy Bible. Lexicon and Bible dictionary authors dug down into the depths of pagan lore, then ransacked the English dictionary to find a match which could burn the Bible word-by-word. The smoke darkens the directing light of the holy scriptures. This book will document that men who want to change and redefine the Holy Bible are likely to want to change anything – even Bible doctrine, their own gender, and their god. For example, Luciferian connections shadow Trench’s New Testament Synonyms and Ginsburg’s TBS Hebrew Masoretic text.

AV Publications, AV Publications 68 Comments [6/27/2009 5:34:38 AM]
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Questioning today’s Holy Bible is just as rebellious as questioning ones gender.

Good to know I'm doubly rebellious then.

6/27/2009 5:45:00 AM

aaa

You should have seen the original copy, it was hilariously bad.

6/27/2009 5:51:43 AM

John_in_Oz

The two are equally as rebellious, equally as irrelevant to other people, and equally as unimportant in the great scheme of things.
It's been a long time since I've agreed with a Fundie!

6/27/2009 5:55:26 AM

Lucilius

"Waaah! Teh Babble doesn't say what I want it to say! Must be liberals' fault!"

6/27/2009 5:56:55 AM

CailinBan

You say rebellious like it's a bad thing. Your whole country (I presume you're in the US) was built on rebellion from your lawful British rulers.

6/27/2009 6:05:43 AM

Philbert McAdamia

So it's evil to want to know what was meant in the original writing, instead of just trusting to your hillbilly pastor, you know; Uncle Daddy Billy-Bob.

6/27/2009 6:18:39 AM

LDM

Dictators use similar logic to keep their nations under lockdown.

6/27/2009 6:27:30 AM

Cabraxas

In a weird, twisted way, there's a point to be made here. If you're going to live by 2000 year old Middle Eastern standards, at least have the respect to read about them in the original 2000 year old Middle Eastern languages.
What do you mean you don't understand ancient Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic? Are you questioning the Word?

6/27/2009 6:33:50 AM

Mageapprentice

>> Questioning today’s Holy Bible is just as rebellious as questioning ones gender.

I don't question my gender- I know it's female-what I do question is the wisdom of putting a female gendered person in a male body.

>> God did it right the first time.

Oh, Really? So if you need glasses, have a cleft palate, develop diabetes, how DARE you question God's Wisdom by wearing glasses, getting surgery, or taking diabetic meds. You will surely go to Hell for trying to make your life better!!

Some may consider getting a sex change to be a little extreme, but for someone born in the wrong body, it's a lifesaving surgery.

You're cherry picking what you're comfortable with- LASIK is A-OK, but a sex change makes you go EEEWWWW!! Tough Shit- walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you pass summary judgement on someone else- it just might make you a better person.

6/27/2009 6:47:52 AM

Mageapprentice

>> Questioning today’s Holy Bible is just as rebellious as questioning ones gender.

I don't question my gender- I know it's female-what I do question is the wisdom of putting a female gendered person in a male body.

>> God did it right the first time.

Oh, Really? So if you need glasses, have a cleft palate, develop diabetes, how DARE you question God's Wisdom by wearing glasses, getting surgery, or taking diabetic meds. You will surely go to Hell for trying to make your life better!!

Some may consider getting a sex change to be a little extreme, but for someone born in the wrong body, it's a lifesaving surgery.

You're cherry picking what you're comfortable with- LASIK is A-OK, but a sex change makes you go EEEWWWW!! Tough Shit- walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you pass summary judgement on someone else- it just might make you a better person.

6/27/2009 6:48:19 AM

Doctor Whom

God did it right the first time - in 1611? Is that your final answer?

6/27/2009 6:51:55 AM

Eden

Questioning today’s Holy Bible is just as rebellious as questioning ones gender.

So, considering the fact that I don´t think that people who question their gender are rebellious, I assume that questioning todays holy bible also isn´t rebellious.
Oh and as someone already said:
Please learn hebrew, greek and aramaic.
[Fundy Mode]
If god had wanted the bible to be written in english, he would have written it in english first hand.
--> All english translations are the work of Satan, even the KJV
[/Fundy Mode]
;)

6/27/2009 7:10:30 AM

JonnyTruant

Yeah, all those early translations of the Bible in Britain before the KJV standardized edition were hilarious. Like the "Thou shalt commit adultery" bible. Or the "Bugger all this Bible" which contained a rant by a very disgruntled typesetter, "Buggre Alle this for a Larke I amme sick to mye Hart of typefettinge. Master Biltonn if no Gentelmann, and Master Scagges noe more than a tighte fisted Southwarke Knobbefticke."

You know what, since every edition of the Bible EVER was reworked by humans, I don't think you should trust ANY of them.

6/27/2009 7:20:06 AM

Berny

A man-made makeover brings “confusion” and defaces and mutilates God’s creation.

So I'll take that as a NO for the life-saving triple heart bypass surgery?
And for what it's worth, the Bible is completely a man-made document. Warts and all.
EDIT: Sheesh! I just read the web page this gem was culled from. These idiots actually think studying the Bible documents in their original languages is heresy. It's KJV or nothing.
Fucking retards.

6/27/2009 7:22:13 AM

John

Sounds like another of those King James Only nuts who seem to think the Bible was written in English first, then translated into Greek and Hebrew.

6/27/2009 7:28:56 AM

Nathan the Wise

I've never understood why a translation team chosen by that well known fundamentalist organisation the Church of England, and commissioned by a man from a family of crypto-Catholics, should be regarded by fundagelicals as the purveyors of the One True Word.

*theatrical shrug* Goyischer kop, innit.

6/27/2009 7:54:45 AM

Ken

A few of the people in my family were born with congenital heart defects. Who were they (or their parents) to improve on God's own handiwork?

6/27/2009 8:01:53 AM

Papabear

Questioning is one of the hallmarks of wisdom. Only a fool would accept without question something as obviously flawed as the Bible.

6/27/2009 8:07:48 AM

Skyknight

I'm having trouble finding where they say we ought not look at the original documents...probably failed to find the page, since I was trying to find an "About Us" page (which page was it, Berny?). Although, when we have something like this...

https://shop.avpublications.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_29&products_id=143&osCsid=05f6627aafdcfd4526cebdba15ef2dee

Is this supposed to be divine numerology or thereabouts?

6/27/2009 8:13:08 AM



It's funny. We've been "perfectioning" God's work, so much that we're alive and kicking at 40. And it's crystaline clear to us that men are from Mars and have a willy and women are from Venus and not. So?

6/27/2009 8:24:57 AM

Mudak

Speaking as someone born with a harelip I have to take exception to your assertion that god got it right the first time.

6/27/2009 8:38:16 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Who'd have ever guessed that self-evident, divine truth would need such a hard sell?

6/27/2009 8:46:11 AM

observiNG

If god did it right the first time, then why did he require circumcisions?

6/27/2009 9:08:00 AM



"men who want to change and redefine the Holy Bible are likely to want to change anything – even Bible doctrine, their own gender, and their god."

...And that's bad why?

6/27/2009 9:13:41 AM

b. beau brinker

Wow... slamming non-KJV bibles AND the transgendered in the same drooling rant. Way to fucking go, guys.

6/27/2009 9:17:37 AM
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