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[Quote: "Yeah but there are hate sites of everything. I could find atheist hate sites, g*y hate sites, racism, ect...

Your posts seem to imply that you think Christians are being persecuted - and they certaintly are in some countries. But not in mine (America). Christians make up a whopping, correct me if I am wrong, 76.5% of Americans.

I don't really think the Dawkins link is a Christian hate message. His answer is pretty logical. I think it is unfair to categorize it so.
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OK, there are hate sites of everything. So that makes it OK to have hate sights of Christians?

Not being persecuted in America?! I live in America and see the persecution first hand. I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days. Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot. I believe it is wrong to murder unborn children, and am deemed an idiot.

I have had children attending school for about 20 years. Our Christian views are not allowed in school while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school. Christianity is being systematically removed from the American society that Christianity built. We are not running from lynch mobs yet, but that will come. Do you think the murderers of Christians in the Sudan just started lopping off heads one day? No, they had to spend the time to set the stage. Did Hitler wake up one day and begin killing Jews? No, it took years of preparation. The American stage is set and the preparations are made. And we, Christians, know much worse is coming, even expect it. Prophecy cannot be denied.

Larry

lwj2op2, Evolution Fairytale Forum 85 Comments [6/30/2009 9:36:44 AM]
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EvoPagan

The fact that we no longer allow you to persecute others does not mean that you are being persecuted. If your religion requires persecution of other in order to be properly practiced, then your religion IS a cult and IS NOT worthy of any legal protections. I suggest that you think about that and all its implications very seriously, and make the right decision.

6/30/2009 11:14:30 AM

misshani

Okay, this may be crazy, but it sounds like a serious kind of crazy.

Do fundamentalists really believe that there's some underground atheist plot to round them all up and execute them? I had no idea that fear existed. Is that why they've been arming themselves? Encouraged to bring guns to church and sending their kids to camps to learn how to use automatic weaponry.

If they think their lives are threatened, they're capable of doing anything. Who's whipping them into this frenzy and what do they stand to gain from it?

6/30/2009 11:16:11 AM

Orestes

No you see, we aren't persecuting Christians, we are persecuting fucking idiots. If you believed by becoming a martyr, you would get 72 virgins in heaven, we'd call you a fucking idiot. If you said you believed in Santa Claus, while seemingly being in at least your forties, same thing.


6/30/2009 11:16:47 AM

D Laurier.

Larry, You are deemed an idiot because you are an idiot.
And being deemed what you are is NOT persecution... Its observation.

6/30/2009 11:17:15 AM

WMDKitty

Once again, being rightly called an idiot for having truly idiotic beliefs in the face of scientific evidence is NOT "persecution".

What you do to atheists, gays, and people of other religions -- that IS.

6/30/2009 11:18:09 AM

tracer

Average Guy wrote:

"Why did the OP censor out 'gay'?"


It's worse than that.

The more level-headed guy that the OP is quoting censored out "gay" in his original message.

It's probably the general squeamishness of the forum members at work. They probably also say "v*g*n*" and "p*n*s".


6/30/2009 11:18:50 AM

EllwyenDarwin

You are an idiot.We have alot of evidence supporting evolution while there is none supporting creation.

6/30/2009 11:19:59 AM

Old Viking

It's fun when they get dressed up all purdy-like and dance to the Persecution Rag.

6/30/2009 11:25:54 AM

The Skeptic Wept

"Prophecy cannot be denied."

Watch this - DENIED!

When I first started reading this I immediately guessed it was the usual crap from Rapture Retards. The sickness must be spreading.

BTW, you aren't "deemed" an idiot, you are an idiot.

6/30/2009 11:26:55 AM

CailinBan

But ... But ... isn't persecution a GOOD thing? Suffering for The Lord gets you brownie points doesn't it? And if you're killed - well hooray, you're up in heaven. We're doing you the favour really!

6/30/2009 11:29:27 AM

Swedish Pagan

Hate sites are a downside to freedom of speach. If we are having freedom of speech it will mean some people using that freedom to spew hatred.

Aside from the fact that he is wrong on several point, he actually does sound surprisingly rational.

However... All and any other religious views are not allowed in school, either. I bet you are not taught the ways of Allah, nor Shiva, nor Odin. Do you know all about the flat world, resting on the head of four elephants, standing on a big turtle? No, that is not just Pratchett's fantasy, he did not invent that, that is a world view much older than him. And as you say ALL & ANY other world views are taught, you must have heard about it several times.

You can't compare science with religion, that is like comparing apples with trucks. The Constitution is deliberately devoid of any religious specifics, and that was written a few hundred years ago. You mean that the persecution of Christians have gone on for that long?

You are free to believe that it's wrong to murder unborn children, that is not idiotic in itself. I believe it's wrong to murder convicted fellons, and some people think I am an idiot for that. That's their right, it's not persecution of me.
It's when you try to forbid others to remove lumps of flesh, with no nervous system and therefore no senses, feelings or thoughts, from their bodies, then you are deemed an idiot.

6/30/2009 11:48:42 AM



Really? Schools teach Buddism? Taoism? That aztec one with the pyramids and human sacrifice? Might work better than detention...

6/30/2009 11:50:23 AM



I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days.

You are wrong. There is no evidence whatsoever to support this.

Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot.

No, you're deemed an idiot because you intentionally choose to ignore the evidence of an old Earth. If you actively choose ignorance, then you'll be deemed ignorant. Not a hard concept to follow here.

I believe it is wrong to murder unborn children, and am deemed an idiot.

No, you're deemed an idiot becuase you intentionally choose to ignore the fact that an unborn fetus is not considered a child yet and does not have the same legal standings of a born child. If you don't like that, then change the law. Stop harrassing women, bombing abortion clinics and murdering doctors and then we'll talk.

Our Christian views are not allowed in school while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school.

Please give me one clear-cut example of this actually happening rather than vague, general statements like yours above. And teaching about Ramadan or Kwanzaa or Yom Kippur is not indoctrinating kids into other religions. They know about Christmas by default so teaching them about other religious holidays does not count as persecution.

Christianity is being systematically removed from the American society that Christianity built.

1. Yeah, so?! If the masses are turning away from religion, then tough. That's your bag so deal with it.
2. The 1st Ammendment and the Treaty of Tripoli disagree with you.

6/30/2009 11:57:27 AM



(sorry, double post)

6/30/2009 11:57:37 AM

Nathan the Wise

And we, Christians, know much worse is coming, even expect it. Prophecy cannot be denied

Especially the self-fulfilling kind. These people expect and want to be persecuted, because that's what they believe will happen in the End Times. Here's a scary thought; if the persecution isn't happening, will some of these loonies take action to make it happen, perhaps by terrorist acts or some other outrage that they hope will turn 'secular' public opinion violently against them? There are jihadis who think like that; will America's fundies come to think the same way?

6/30/2009 12:00:00 PM

HeathenAngel

Cue

Persecuted v NOT Persecuted image

6/30/2009 12:04:55 PM



1. Young earth creationism is bullshit. There is a massive amount of scientific evidence to support the old earth and evolutionary theory. You claim that people call you an idiot. If people are really saying that about you, it's probably because you're making shit up and refusing to listen to anything that disagrees with your little fairy tale. You're more "psycho" than idiot.
2. No religions are taught in schools. That's a good thing. Christianity isn't the only religion with no evidence.
3. You might not want to use the Hitler analogy... Hitler referred to himself as a Christian, and he cited the Biblical stories as a source for his hatred of Jews. He also hated atheists.
4. I deny your "prophecy" often, because most of it is bullshit. Every prediction in the Bible has either been discredited or is so vaguely written that it could apply to any event, at any time.
5. If you want to see "persecution of Christians," move to Algeria or Yemen. You don't have the slightest idea what "persecution" means, dickwad.

6/30/2009 12:07:24 PM

breakerslion

WAAAAAAAAHHH! You won't believe our batshit-insane, irrational, and unsupported assertions when we tell you to! You're making fun of us! Whaaaah!

6/30/2009 12:12:27 PM

Painful

Lying for Jebus...

...at least all our public schools had to give the "crazy religious nutters in the majority that spoke up think evolution is wrong and god created the earth" lecture at least one day in science class 20 years ago, not to mention the prayer circle around the flag before class. (Yeah, would have loved to see a pagan, hindu, muslim group get away with that.)

PS I grew up in one of those yankee democratic tolerant northern states too.

6/30/2009 12:26:22 PM



...Christians?

Not being persecuted in America?! I live in America and see the persecution first hand. I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days.


You're not being persecuted for being a Christian, you're being argued against for being a complete idiot.

6/30/2009 12:32:08 PM



...Christians?

Not being persecuted in America?! I live in America and see the persecution first hand. I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days.


You're not being persecuted for being a Christian, you're being argued against for being an idiot.

6/30/2009 12:33:08 PM

LDM

I got ganged up on once for saying I hadn't seen the inside of a church in 10 years, and you're the persecuted one?

Don't make me laugh.

6/30/2009 12:45:46 PM

Haseen

It's not persecution to call an idiot an idiot. It's just telling the truth.

6/30/2009 1:01:19 PM

Porky Pine

You keep using that word "Persecution". I don't think it means what you think it does.

6/30/2009 1:01:26 PM

Mayhem

Damn... where did I put that pie chart?

6/30/2009 1:12:31 PM
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