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[Quote: "Yeah but there are hate sites of everything. I could find atheist hate sites, g*y hate sites, racism, ect...

Your posts seem to imply that you think Christians are being persecuted - and they certaintly are in some countries. But not in mine (America). Christians make up a whopping, correct me if I am wrong, 76.5% of Americans.

I don't really think the Dawkins link is a Christian hate message. His answer is pretty logical. I think it is unfair to categorize it so.
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OK, there are hate sites of everything. So that makes it OK to have hate sights of Christians?

Not being persecuted in America?! I live in America and see the persecution first hand. I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days. Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot. I believe it is wrong to murder unborn children, and am deemed an idiot.

I have had children attending school for about 20 years. Our Christian views are not allowed in school while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school. Christianity is being systematically removed from the American society that Christianity built. We are not running from lynch mobs yet, but that will come. Do you think the murderers of Christians in the Sudan just started lopping off heads one day? No, they had to spend the time to set the stage. Did Hitler wake up one day and begin killing Jews? No, it took years of preparation. The American stage is set and the preparations are made. And we, Christians, know much worse is coming, even expect it. Prophecy cannot be denied.

Larry

lwj2op2, Evolution Fairytale Forum 85 Comments [6/30/2009 9:36:44 AM]
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tracer

" I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days.
Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot."

... where "NO science" is defined as "a large body of evidence that I choose to ignore."

6/30/2009 1:16:21 PM

Pule Thamex

Allow me to assist you in your feelings of persecution. You're an idiot. Hope that helps a little. Think of it as the first tentative step in the next phase of your persecution. Or think of it as foreplay, and just imagine the increasing surge of desire as you work towards the head-lopping climax. More help? You're an idiot. You're a moron. You're a gullible simpleton.

I expect you're feeling excited now and are quite looking forward to when they start loping off Christian heads, particularly your own. Setting the stage for the delights to come should be a fun time for you. All that lovely build-up and quivering in anticipation. It's better than sex isn't it? And then, the climax! Your own head is lopped off! Sweet shivering ecstasy!

6/30/2009 1:37:50 PM



"OK, there are hate sites of everything. So that makes it OK to have hate sights of Christians?"

First, it's FOR, not OF. Second, no, that doesn't follow. And it IS ok to have "hate" sites because you have an extremely broad definition of the word hate. I could say "I don't like what (insert Christian's name) says" and even if what they're saying has nothing to do with Christianity you'll say "YOU HATE CHRISTIANS!!!" I'm sure there are true hate sites out there, but criticism and analysis is not hate, and the average person interested in criticism and analysis is not also interested in true hate.

"I have had children attending school for about 20 years. Our Christian views are not allowed in school while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school."

Where? I wasn't taught about other religions' views in my whole school career. We were also not restricted from talking about whatever we liked or reading whatever we liked on breaks.

"Christianity is being systematically removed from the American society that Christianity built."

Uhm, ok. Society can change you know. Some of us are tired of being expected to be something we're not, and we'd like others to accept that. That's all. Also society is not the same as government if that's what you meant, and the government was not set up Christian.

"We are not running from lynch mobs yet, but that will come. (etc.)"

I'm really not sure who you think is going to kill you. If you are killed it certainly won't be for your religion, or even if you are, you can be sure that the murderer will be prosecuted accordingly. Most of the people in the groups you want to squash believe in your right to your speech and religion. All they want is for you to accept THEIR right to freely hold their own views rather than having yours forced on them.

6/30/2009 2:25:08 PM

Mrs. Antichrist

double post

6/30/2009 2:57:58 PM

Mrs. Antichrist

These people live in such a naive little bubble. Oh, boo hoo, someone made fun of you. Big whoop. We've all be insulted at some point in our lives, yet most of us have the good sense to realize that being mocked =/= persecution. Are you being denied of property, unable to get a job, suffering serious bodily harm and/or at risk of losing your life over your beliefs? No? Then shut the fuck up and start appreciating the fact that you live in a country where persecution is the exception and not the rule. You wouldn't know persecution if it burned your house down, dragged you out into the town square and lynched you.

6/30/2009 2:58:28 PM

Kat

People have a right to disagree with your beliefs. You think people are stupid if they believe that Allah is God and Muhammad is his prophet or if they don't believe in God for starters. So how is it truly different when people don't believe in your interpretation of the Bible?



People disagreeing with your beliefs is not persecution.

People bombing your house, killing you or your relatives, torturing you or your relatives, stealing or not doing buisness with you, or just having to deal with the threat of these hostilities just because of your beliefs is persecution. This is what Christians in Iraq, Afganistan, China, India and other places have to deal with on a day to day basis.

So piss off lwj2op2.

6/30/2009 3:18:13 PM

Ken

You're just pissed because there's no majority rule when it comes to equality anymore.

6/30/2009 3:19:03 PM

wackadoodle

:ur Christian views are not allowed in school while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school."

So they teach Hindu Creationism now? GREAT! Man didn't come from monkeys, man came from monkey god!

6/30/2009 3:19:35 PM

Dr. Novakaine

The bullshit machine is running full-steam on this one. Christianity built America? America was founded on the principle of freedom of religion. The fact that you're trying to insert Christianity into everything is a direct VIOLATION of American principles.

You're not deemed an idiot because you're Christian, you're deemed an idiot because YOU'RE AN IDIOT. Reasonable Christians discarded that whole "10,000 years old" and "seven days" rubbish because it's bogus and there's an avalanche of science refuting it (oh, yeah, there is, and you saying there isn't is an outright lie - whose God hates lying again?). Reasonable Christians don't make such stupid claims as every other religion being taught in school - I was never taught any religion in school, and the only time I was taught ABOUT religion I was taught about the five major ones, including Christianity.

Maybe the reason they call you an idiot is because you spout idiocy like that. Ever consider that possibility?

6/30/2009 4:02:19 PM

Marc

OK, there are hate sites of everything. So that makes it OK to have hate sights of Christians?

Well, given that we have freedom of speech in this country, I would have to say it's legal, even if immoral.

Not being persecuted in America?! I live in America and see the persecution first hand. I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days. Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot.

Actually, there is tons of science to support a different idea. The fact that you refuse to accept it is what makes you an idiot.

I believe it is wrong to murder unborn children, and am deemed an idiot.

In this case, it's not your belief that makes you an idiot. You're entitled to your belief. It's that you wish to force that belief on others that makes you an asshole.

Our Christian views are not allowed in school while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school.

That's because the views you hold involve forcing people to pray to your god, and teach your religion as science.

We are not running from lynch mobs yet, but that will come. Do you think the murderers of Christians in the Sudan just started lopping off heads one day? No, they had to spend the time to set the stage. Did Hitler wake up one day and begin killing Jews? No, it took years of preparation. The American stage is set and the preparations are made. And we, Christians, know much worse is coming, even expect it. Prophecy cannot be denied.

It's doubtful. See, the people who oppose you are more concerned with reason than hate. This, of course, is different from the actions you likely support, like beating gays and shooting abortion doctors because your god says it's okay.


6/30/2009 4:18:04 PM

Canadiest

"Prophecy cannot be denied."

Yes it can, Prophecy cannot be proved!

6/30/2009 5:26:02 PM

Jimbob

Larry your an Idiot.

6/30/2009 5:28:58 PM

The Jamo

"OK, there are hate sites of everything. So that makes it OK to have hate sights of Christians?"

You spelled "sites" correctly in the first half of your sentence, and then you not only misspelled it but by doing so you used a completely wrong word. I for one deem you an idiot, your christian sensibilities notwithstanding.

6/30/2009 6:07:11 PM

Sasha

The American stage is set and the preparations are made. And we, Christians, know much worse is coming, even expect it. Prophecy cannot be denied.

So if nothing can be done, why not just kick back and relax? Leave it all in your god's hands. You're completely impotent anyway, right?

6/30/2009 7:27:12 PM

Giveitaday

OK, there are hate sites of everything. So that makes it OK to have hate sights of Christians?

Yes. Christianity isn't exempt from anything. You and your religion are not special, nor are you in anyway "above" or better than the members of any other religions or the non religious. Free speech applies to everybody, even if you don't like what they have to say.

Not being persecuted in America?!

That's right. Deal with it.

I live in America and see the persecution first hand

Would that persecution be the persecution of gays, foriegners, and non-christians by fundamentalist christians? Because the the only kind of persecution you find around here.

I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days. Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot

Then you are an idiot! I won't sugarcoat it for you, you believe that even though there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of pages of sound science and research supporting the view that the world is much older than 10,000 years. The reason you are considered an idiot is because you reject that research out of hand with no examiation whatsoever and assert that your position is true because you think a book tells you that (It doesn't).

Our Christian views are not allowed in school

You are either misinformed or just plain lying, Christian views are allowed in schools, what's not allowed is christianity to be taught as fact, to be proselytized in schools, nor is mandatory prayer of any religion allowed to be enforced on the students.

while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school.

Bullshit. They are not, you are lying pure and simple, in a desperate attempt to prove that the majority religion of the country is being persecuted.

Christianity is being systematically removed from the American society that Christianity built.

The founding documents that the US is based on come out of the Enlightenment tradition andnot the christian religion. To that point there are founding principles to the US that are in direct opposition to christian dogma and teachings.

We are not running from lynch mobs yet

Your right, your still running the lynch mobs.

but that will come.

Maybe, but not in either of our lifetimes, or our cchildrens lifetime.

And we, Christians, know much worse is coming, even expect it. Prophecy cannot be denied.

Then quit bitching about it, especially when it isn't even happening. More to the point your "prophecies" are vague placing no dates or circumstaces and to claim that they are intended for this time, in this country they didn't exist at the time, was in a land yet to be discovered, and was never mentioned nor inferred to by name or in any other way, it's just plain ridiculous that you think you can know to any degree of certainty that prophecy is being fulfilled. It's little more than wishful thinking to prop up your masochistic persecution complex.

6/30/2009 7:51:28 PM

Lord X

Look, dumbass, schools are not allowed to teach scripture as part of the required curriculum. That is all. There is nothing keeping them from having elective classes based on religion, nor from keeping students from following their own beliefs.

The ban on scripture based required classes includes any scripture, not just the Bible. It also include the Koran, pagan texts, Buddhist texts, Hindu texts, non-existent Atheist and Agnostic texts, etc. Evolution is taught as a scientific theory, not fact.

Also, NO, hate sites for other things do NOT make it right to make hate sites for Christianity, which, incidentally, was part of the point. The rest of point was that no matter how right or wrong something is, it doesn't stop people from being bigoted pricks.

You are not persecuted. You are just not treated specially, you fucking hypocrite. People like you rejoice when gays, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. are denied equal treatment, but complain when you are denied special treatment.

Go jump in a lake and die.

6/30/2009 8:26:49 PM

Vince

your deemed an idiot because you are. simple.

6/30/2009 8:34:40 PM

Alethe

First, go found a church in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Egypt or Sudan. After a few years (if you actually survive that long), come back here. Then we'll talk about persecution of Christians in North America.

6/30/2009 8:50:06 PM

DaMentalFunism

Aww, you poor guy! Deemed an idiot on the internets! Whoa I would hate to go through that.

6/30/2009 9:23:16 PM

Orion

Shut up. You aren't being persecuted as a Christian dipshit. You're being persecuted (however softly) as an idiot.

Society tends to look down upon low intelligence due to the incredible usefulness of higher intelligence.

Seriously though being called an idiot is part of the real world, happens to everybody, deal with it you thin-skinned pussy.

7/1/2009 12:40:06 AM

nutbunny

"Even though there is NO science to support anything else"
Science supports anything but...

"I believe it is wrong to murder unborn children"
fetuses are not people. A cow whose flesh you consume is more of a person than a fetus you hypocrite.

"Our Christian views are not allowed in school while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school"
Lies. ALL LIES!!!

"American society that Christianity built"
Lies. ALL LIES!!!

"Prophecy cannot be denied"
You, sir, are "deemed an idiot"

7/1/2009 2:17:41 AM

Nullifier

Yes!!!... We are coming to persecute you!!!!!!!!...
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7/1/2009 4:29:51 AM

Caustic Gnostic

Speaking from my self-proclaimed position of Adjutant General of the Deemed Idiot Corps, it is painfully clear to me that you are abusing our most precious arguments. Thus, you must be punished.

Step up to the Rapture Elevator here.

Never mind that it looks like a huge fucking cannon. That's an optical illusion.

7/1/2009 7:20:52 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Not being persecuted in America?! I live in America and see the persecution first hand. I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days. Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot. I believe it is wrong to murder unborn children, and am deemed an idiot."

Are you living in a ghetto? Forced to wear a cross on all your clothing to show you're a Christian? Not allowed to go to certain places? Are you to be put in cattle trucks and taken to a concentration camp where you'll be used as slave labour, knowing that if you falter, you'll be put in a gas chammber & ultimately incinerated? Or even used as guinea pigs in hideous 'experiments'?

No? In that case, you're NOT being persecuted. I've met & talked with a survivor of the worst of the Nazis' death factories: Auschwitz. You fundies know NOTHING of persecution. And until the same things happen to you as did to the Jewish suvivor of the Holocaust I've met, you have NO right to speak of being 'persecuted'. Because of what you say and think, lwj2op2, you ARE an idiot. And that's a statement of FACT, not persecution.

7/1/2009 10:00:19 AM



I find that sites promoting ... killing towards Christians-creationists have huge followings.

Name just one. I assert they don't exist. Anytime I've seen an atheist make a death threat (tho never toward a creationist), they get banned by the atheist-owner. This guy isn't paranoid, he's lying.

Wait. Unless he can't determine "DIAF" humorous-type exaggerations of frustration from actual death threats... Fundies do have an awful time with sarcasm, metaphor, fiction, humour.

7/1/2009 12:34:01 PM
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