Quote# 63852

How long will it be until immunizations are mandatory? Such legislation is already pending on a Federal level. People who are still able to discern and have the ability to think know that the H1N1, so-called pandemic, is bogus. It is a crafty plot to intimidate and control people. The so-called “swine flu”, or H1N1 virus, was manufactured from human and animal viruses from four different continents of the world. They were recombined and designed to spread from human to human during a non-flu season. These and other amazing facts were published by Charles Drace, a researcher from Christchurch, New Zealand. He also reported the following pertinent information: During the 1976 swine flu scare, no one died from it. The United States mass-vaccinated people anyway, and twenty-five people died from the vaccine. Hundreds more people who were vaccinated developed the crippling Guillian-Barre syndrome immediately after their injections. Even healthy 20-year-olds became paraplegics from the vaccine! Even the infamous Tamiflu vaccine is not designed to protect against the flu, but rather to shorten the length of flu from 12 days to 11 days. Side effects from Tamiflu are many and include suicidal tendencies, which is why Japan banned its use among children. In the past six years, there have been 257 deaths from the “bird flu pandemic.” George Bush predicted it would kill two million people. Three thousand people die of malaria every day, but that is not a pandemic because no one can make a vaccine against malaria! What will it take for people to come fully awake? Apathy has dug many graves!

David J. Meyer, Last Trumpet Ministries 17 Comments [7/7/2009 9:38:42 AM]
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Nyssa of Aachen

Tamiflu is a antiviral drug, not a vaccine, that halts, or at least slows down Viral Replication, in a similar way to Protease inhibitors slow down the replication of the HIV Virus...
As for his remarks about Malaria Vaccines, the reason why such a vaccine cannot be made, is Malaria is produced by the actions of a protozoan,(amoeba like) parasite in the bloodstream of a infected victim, which eats the victim's red blood cells, not by bacteria or viruses...
In Short, Biology Epic Fail !!!

7/7/2009 11:11:31 AM

Tell it to the 1000 cases diagnosed everyday in the world. Better luck next time.

7/7/2009 11:19:12 AM


Malaria? It's far tougher nut to crack than the swine flu.

7/7/2009 12:14:50 PM

It is a crafty plot to intimidate and control people

How does that work, exactly?
"There's a new flu strain, be careful."
"A new flu strain? We must vote Democrat immediately!"

And who the fuck is Charles Drace? The only Kiwi of that name I can find is an investment fund broker.

Sorry, that was me, Nathan the Wise.

7/7/2009 12:22:36 PM

Dr. Novakaine

About the only thing Davey even came close on is that the whole H1N1 pandemic has been a major bust thus far. Almost 95,000 reported cases worldwide, yet fewer than .5% of those cases has been fatal. And that's just confirmed cases; it is extremely likely that the number of undiagnosed cases is far greater than the number of reported cases, and similarly likely that undiagnosed cases resulted in virtually no deaths. All things considered, I think it's likely that the total death rate for swine flu hasn't been any greater than the .1-.2% we've consistently gotten with the seasonal influenza virus.

However, I very much doubt there's a vast worldwide conspiracy about it. Most likely, people are overblowing the entire thing because of fears over Spanish Flu (which was nasty but hasn't been seen since 1918) and bird flu (which appears to be more dangerous than the average flu virus but so far hasn't spread as far).

Oh, and it's not possible to make a malaria vaccine, because malaria is not a virus. Research: you're doing it wrong.

7/7/2009 12:31:33 PM

D Laurier.

"How long will it be until immunizations are mandatory?"
Expect them to be required by 1930 or so.

7/7/2009 7:31:39 PM


Charles Drace? He's a financial planner. What the fuck?

7/7/2009 10:18:17 PM


>>"Three thousand people die of malaria every day, but that is not a pandemic because no one can make a vaccine against malaria!"

Yes, but aren't there drugs that cure it? The problem is that in the portion of the world in which malaria is a real threat, the people there can't get access to the medications for it.

People don't make a big deal out of malaria because it's been around forever, there's medicine for it, and it's not much of a problem in the industrialized world.

7/7/2009 10:29:54 PM

However, you are planning not to go to Mexico or Low California, eh dear?

7/8/2009 2:24:33 AM


Vaccinations SHOULD be mandatory, with only ONE exception -- an allergy to a component of the vaccine.

This is one of those rare things where herd conformity really does benefit everyone.

7/8/2009 3:31:30 AM

Dr. Novakaine

Even when there's allergies involved, I find it hard to believe that they couldn't develop a hypoallergenic vaccine.

7/8/2009 7:44:55 AM

G. Fieendish

Re: Charles Drace
Apparently, this Charles Drace (Not the Investment banker) has published a guide called "Everything You Want To Know About Genetic Engineering, But The Government Won't Tell You", which cost in 2000 (date of Publication) some $34.95 NZ...

7/9/2009 2:29:54 PM

Immunisations *should* be mandatory, and your scaremongering bullshit pisses me the fuck off.

7/10/2009 2:14:52 PM

Man Called True

Assholes like you are pushing for a return to the days where every block has kids crippled by childhood illnesses. Go jump in a meat grinder, Dave.

7/16/2009 5:57:33 AM


Looks like David J. Meyer is expanding beyond just making creepy comments about preteen girl's fashion.

7/17/2009 1:26:51 PM


atrasicarius: that's David J. Stewart.

12/22/2010 10:49:16 AM


It is well known that co-infection of one host by two strains of influenza virus can lead to swapping of partial chromosomes (crossover) or whole chromosomes (reassortment) from the different strains, causing antigenic shift and hence a new strain significantly different from those involved in recent seasonal 'flu. All that is necessary for this to happen is the human activity of keeping livestock, or coming into close contact with other 'flu-carrying animals. This genetic recombination has nothing to do with "manufacture" or "design" - it is a natural process also seen in every sexually-reproducing organism. (This could be wrong, of course, but it seems more likely than the global pharma conspiracy tampering with Mr Meyer's testicles every night to "manufacture" all those spermatozoa.)

There was a weak association between the 1976 swine 'flu vaccination and Guillain-Barré syndrome (possibly 10 cases per million vaccinated people), but Meyer either does not know or has chosen to ignore two facts. On the one hand, no association has been demonstrated between any subsequent 'flu vaccines and GBS. On the other hand, the risk of developing GBS is approximately ten times greater after a flu-like illness than after a flu jab. So: dodge your 'flu jab and earn yourself the significant risk of hospitalisation or death from the disease itself, plus a higher risk of GBS than if you got vaccinated. What a great plan!

As Nyssa said:

Biology Epic Fail!

1/10/2011 7:28:22 AM

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