Quote# 63965

"No 9/11 truther has ever been able to answer this for me:
If the Bush administration had planned 911, why would they have filled the planes with Saudis, - Bushco's buddies - and not so much have a single Iraqi aboard. Only to spend the next two years desperately trying to connect 9/11 with Iraq. Anyone?"

No idea. But all you need to know is this. All the government reports and the toothy truthers agree the towers collapsed at damned near free fall as you can get.

So, a tower is just about to collapse. Lets take the N Tower. Suddenly appearing nearby is an extremely large crane. From the crane hangs a piece of office block exactly the same size and weight as that above impact in the N. Tower. It is also being held up at the same height. It has nothing beneath it.

The starters whistle blows and both tops begin to fall.

The crane top falls through the empty air achieving free fall rate as one would expect of something falling freely under gravity alone. As a consequence it arrives at the ground also in the shortest and only time it could have taken; that being free fall time.

But funny enough as it lands so does the top of the N. Tower. But that top did not fall freely but fell through the line of most resistance. Strangely enough it still achieved free fall rate even though it was smashing to smithereens approximately 8 floors a second as it did so. Nonetheless it still arrived at the ground at the free fall time as the fictional top that really did fall freely through empty air. Both tops did entirely different amounts of work coming down. One did nothing the other did as much as to beggar belief. Yet according to NIST gravity was the only force involved.

Now if that doesn't sound true to you, it should still sound untrue whether Elvis, James Dean, Marilyn Munro or Donald fucking Duck was on the plane.

LondonLad, Salon.com 24 Comments [7/16/2009 11:20:36 AM]
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...so, care to explain exactly HOW this grand conspiracy achieved a feat such as that? also, provide concrete evidence.

7/16/2009 12:51:07 PM


"I don't know, but here is some word salad."

7/16/2009 12:56:54 PM

Nathan the Wise

That didn't make any fucking sense at all.

7/16/2009 1:21:04 PM


7/16/2009 2:05:29 PM


I don't think you know what you are babbling about.

7/16/2009 2:18:00 PM


...Wait, what? Your point is...?

7/16/2009 2:46:12 PM


So you're saying the WTC was hollow.

7/16/2009 3:34:50 PM



Just like every single building on Earth! It's a conspiracy, I tell ya!

7/16/2009 4:40:05 PM



7/16/2009 4:55:38 PM


1) It did not fall at a "freefall" speed, this has been debunked numerous times via the actual video footage of the collapse. Your theoretical load dropped from the crane would have hit the ground about five seconds before the tower did.

2) At least you aren't claiming that tower seven fell "faster than freefall" like half the moronic "truthers". Seriously, learn some basic math and/or physics and then compare it to the video footage. Did the government mount giant rocket motors to tower sevens roof to propel it into the ground "faster than freefall" or something?

3) Your nothing but a bunch of credulous idiots being pandered to by those who make money from your interest. Please do grow up...please?

7/16/2009 8:55:44 PM



No matter how the damn thing was blown up, the tower would of fallen at the same rate of speed.

And why are his invisible friends on the plane?

7/16/2009 10:32:03 PM

Pule Thamex

LondonLad is not really a person but the codeword for a secret government department created to disseminate false information and to talk shit.

7/16/2009 11:51:36 PM

Dr. Novakaine

I read that three times and I still couldn't figure out what the hell your point was without looking at ausador's comment. If you can't be coherent don't post, idiot.

7/17/2009 8:32:35 AM

Why exactly would they even need to demolish the towers? Just the planes hitting them would have been plenty of reason to go to war. They wouldn't do something that could potentially cause an econmic collapse; they sort of NEED the economy in order to go to war.

7/17/2009 11:35:47 AM


Wait, what?

7/17/2009 12:55:15 PM


Augh! That's hard to read.

What is it with Fundies and conspiracy nuts and word salad? It seems like every other quote is chock full of word salad.

7/17/2009 1:03:18 PM

The Truth is Out There

There were explosives inside the building planted there by someone. They made sure to wire the explosives perfectly so that the building would collapse to cause the least amount of damage to the sorrounding areas. The planes were the cover sp that people wouldn't hear the explosions. It had to be timed precisely. The people who I think were behind it were the jews. They wanted the US to get in a war in the middle east to take the pressure off of them. Then they did everything to trick us into invading Iraq. They tried to get us to invade Syria and are currently trying to get us to fight Iran. The jews are very sneaky and we must be very wary of them.

7/18/2009 8:35:37 PM

Man Called True

You fail Newtonian physics.

7/18/2009 8:46:29 PM


Ah, but that's what your fellow tinfoil hat-wearers want you to think!

7/19/2009 11:16:45 AM


The thing about conspiracies is that they are always wrong. Why? Because the only conspiracy theory is that the govt creates half of the plausible sounding ones. 9/11 footage goes missing? Seems very shifty, idiots think its a conspiracy and voila random nuts are left chasing their tails for years without finding out any real secrets.

7/23/2009 7:57:25 AM


You lost me, kiddo. If you must relate a conspiracy theory, it must have some semblance of coherence and sense.

Otherwise, where's the fun in it?

7/23/2009 11:36:59 PM


I have no idea what this guy is talking about, but I do know this. I took high school physics about 6 years ago and I can use what little I remember to see the gigantic holes in this guy's argument.. well, if I could figure out what the argument is.

7/27/2009 11:04:10 AM


...so that means you don't have an answer to the original question?

The US government had the support of almost the whole world when they went into Afghanistan.

If they had put some Iraquis on the planes and created some paper trail to Saddam Hussein everyone would have supported the invasion of Iraq.

Instead they had these ridiculous "mobile WMD lab trucks" and Colin Powell's awkward presentation at the UN.

Worst. Conspiracy. Ever.

6/19/2012 6:30:49 AM

A. Square

I just love the non sequitur in the last sentence.

8/20/2013 7:09:04 PM

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