I seem to have been misunderstood.. I don't doubt at all that NASA has built rockets capable of space flights. We've all seen the footage, the Satellites, the space station that's all real and obvious. I don't doubt that NASA has sent vehicles to Mars and the Moon and gathered minerals/photos etc.. What I do doubt is that NASA has sent man to the moon. I'm not going to present evidence because even if it's true you'll debunk it with your scientific jargon, it's what you do with any credible evidence for ID. I've been on this forum long enough to be cautious of this and what I'm really trying to do is get those who have never questioned authority before to check it out for themselves and make up their minds on the matter.. de-brainwash their heavily brainwashed minds so to speak if they want to.