Liberals often say that premediated child murder (abortion) should be available to women because sometimes they get pregnant from being raped. Well why do they want to take out their anger over being raped out on their unborn baby? If they are old enough to get pregnant, shouldn't they be old enough to assume responsibility for their actions? This includes considering what they might have done to bring on the rape, like wear promiscuous clothing.
Sometimes when my kids get angry, they take out their anger on each other. But they are kids. Adults should know better then to do this, or so I would think, especially when it comes to the life of a baby who hasn't even had a chance to breathe outside air yet.
What a great God we serve who can bring innocent life into the world through an attack!
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Fucking hell, but you are a subhuman sack of shit. In a way I almost wish there was a Hell, just so rape apologists could go there. See Also: Fire, Die in a
There's no reasoning with this kind of callous ignorance. This guy is just a Grade-A, first-class dickhead. An attitude like this will be justly rewarded in time anyway. Guaranteed. When his beloved children come home as the crack-fiends they will inevitably become as the result of his dismal, neolithic style of parenting, he'll wonder what he did wrong. The tragic part is, it'll never even occur to him. He's blissfully oblivious of how repulsive he and his beliefs really are to a modern, civilized, secular, sane person.
So. . . what did the local 70+ year old woman do a couple weeks ago do to invite someone to try to rape her?
Besides that, I don't think you remotely understand what happens mentally as the result of a rape, as the result of becoming pregnant -- especially as a result of a rape, as the result of raising a child you didn't plan on having by a man who obviously cares nothing for you, as the result of giving the child up for adoption, even. Honestly I can't say I do either, but at least I'm observant enough to see that this sort of thing has an intense effect on people (and I do know what that's like, if for different reasons). Who told you having an abortion in this case is due to anger anyway?
"This includes considering what they might have done to bring on the rape, like wear promiscuous clothing."
It isn't wise for a woman to put herself in a situation where she might be vulnerable, true enough, but that doesn't excuse the rapist in the smallest degree. If I leave my door unlocked and somebody robs my house, you could say I was unwise not to lock the door, but that doesn't mean the burglar can in any way be excused for robbing me.
Blaming the victim is utterly absurd.
Because you are (a) male and (b) a fanatic, your opinions on how a woman should behave after a rape are utterly meaningless. Until you live daily with the knowledge that someone can force sex on you and impregnate you, your opinions should have absolutely no bearing on anything to do with the situation. Also, please give your children up for adoption so a decent person with morals--preferably an atheist lesbian--can raise them, and then castrate yourself with a butter knife.
"What a great God we serve who can bring innocent life into the world through an attack!"
To paraphrase Epicurus, either he could have brought that innocent life into the world without the attack but didn't, in which case he's not that great, or he couldn't have brought that innocent life into the world without the attack, in which case he's not that great.
And since, being omniscient, he would have known that bringing it into the world through the attack would have led to it being aborted, he's pretty dumb as well.
And since he's willing to condemn the woman who was the victim of the attack to eternal torment for doing what he knew she would when he arranged for the innocent life to be brought into the world through an attack, he's also a douche.
Say the mother was raped and impregnated by a retard fundie Christian, then she would definitely want an abortion. The risk of giving birth to an infant that's been infected by retard genes would be too great. Hard to believe that God would be such a bastard as to cause pregnancy by retard.
On the other hand, I can make your God do what I want. If I want to have sex with a women with neither of us using contraception, God has got no choice but to do my bidding and make the woman pregnant at my command. However, if I use contraception, He can't do it. He's pretty damn powerless. Just like that wimp Satan.
1)It's not murder not matter how much you say it.
2)No one brings on rape,stop blaming the victim.
3)If your kids take their anger out on eachother then your not raising them right.
4)You have no say in what a woman should do and how she should feel after her body was violated go die in a fire rape apologist.
5)"What a great god we serve who can bring innocent life in the world through an attack!"
What god?I'm guessing your christian fundie that's Yehwah you invoke.No it isn't "innocent"what about that original sin you fundies are always preaching about?
That is such a disgusting thing to say.You make me with there was a hell just so I can spit in your god's face on the way down.
"premediated child murder"
is not
(abortion), or abortion.
abortion is not "premediated child murder".
Please stop equating and interchanging these two UNRELATED concepts
"If they are old enough to get pregnant, shouldn't they be old enough to assume responsibility for their actions?"
Newsflash retard! Children can get pregnant too!
I have said before that most of the time when I post I try to do so with a little bit of humour and a lot of good will...but sometimes you people fuck me up so much...this is, sadly, another one of those times...Can you actually imagine being forced (and I don't want to say the rest) ...but.. no, I guess you don't know, you don't understand... Adults should know better than to fuck kids, but they don't. And it doesn't matter what clothes you are wearing. Like they even fucking think about that! A 13 year old kid is still a kid, even though ... well.. the hot ass is waitin' for ya.
Fuck off and die you sick fuck.
"This includes considering what they might have done to bring on the rape, like wear promiscuous clothing."
Yeah! And traipsing around in public with a vagina under her clothing. How dare she!
Fundies: blaming women for their own rapes for thousands of years!
SFS is one of those people who make me wish there was a Hell, just so I could laugh my ass off when he's being tortured for eternity.
Dear Soldier for Salvation,
Please drown in quicksand.
Sincerely,
The Human Race
1. Dear God Almighty! You actually have kids Soldier For Salvation?
2. I really hope and pray that if you have a daughter that she never gets raped and pregnant because you are probably a big enough asshole to you children.
3. The name Soldier for Salvation is a joke. Why do you fundies take on religious screen names that really don't represent what you do?
I know that you can't be a soldier by any definition at all.
Yay, victim blamers and forced birthers!
"If they are old enough to get pregnant, shouldn't they be old enough to assume responsibility for their actions?"
Not always. And even if a woman was a multibillionaire with perfect health she still shouldn't be forced to have a baby.
"If they are old enough to get pregnant, shouldn't they be old enough to assume responsibility for their actions? This includes considering what they might have done to bring on the rape, like wear promiscuous clothing."
Way to blame the victim there, Slick.
Wait...
"what they might have done to bring on the rape, like wear promiscuous clothing."
"promiscuous clothing "
I didn't know clothing could have indiscriminate sex.
If they are old enough to get pregnant, shouldn't they be old enough to assume responsibility for their actions? This includes considering what they might have done to bring on the rape, like wear promiscuous clothing.
And how dare they sleep in a house alone with a window open. How dare they take a night shift to feed their families. How dare they walk from class to class on a university campus. How dare they go out with a guy who seems nice, even one that their parents like. How dare they let a male dentist give them nitrous. How dare they go out of the house at all without a male chaperon.
These idiots won't be happy until we're all wearing burkas.
Edit:
Just thought I should add that many years ago, my ex did find a naked woman in the streets. She was high, or insane, not sure which, and since this was the days before cell phones he couldn't exactly call for help. He flagged down a cab driver who called for the police then they cornered her and waited for the police.
So tell me was he that much more moral than this idiot because he could keep from raping a naked woman? Is my doctor a much more moral man because he's able to give women physicals without raping them?
First of all, abortion is not "premeditated child murder." It's a clump of cells, for fucks sake.
Second of all, women don't "bring on" their own rapes, even if they're wearing clothing you term "promiscuous." Rape is not the victim's fault. (And it usually isn't about sex, anyway; it's about power.)
Finally: "What a great God we serve who can bring innocent life into the world through an attack!"
That is the most FUCKED UP thing I have ever read. Yes, innocent life - that will probably be resented, and improperly cared for if the women wasn't somehow planning a pregnancy anyway. The kid and parent will both have a miserable two decades - what a great God we serve!
Seriously? Really?
It isn't about the promiscuous clothing. Rape has nothing to do with sexuality. It has everything to do with establishing dominance and causing humiliation to the rape victims.
You should really just learn to shut your mouth.
So those muslim women - you know the ones who wear the hijabs and niqabs - they deserve to be raped because of their revealing clothing?
Dying in a fire would be too good for you. I suggest being anally raped (sans lubrication) with a cactus. Having lemon juice rubbed in the area then being anally raped again with a cactus. Lather, rinse and repeat until soldier gets that rape sucks.
Any man who says a woman "brings on" a rape should be taken to the nearest prison, stripped naked, and put in the shower room with the words "come and get it" tattooed across their backside.
If that doesn't put a stop to this blaming the victim crap, I don't know what will.
And if I ever get pregnant as the result of rape, you're damn right that fetus is getting flushed. I'm not prolonging my pain and suffering just so some bible-thumping asshole can feel smug and self-righteous about himself.
Nor will I ever bring a child into this world who has to go through life with the knowledge that they're the product of violence and not love.
Unholy fucking shit. I literally can not believe what I just read, and I read it twice just to be sure my eyes weren't fucking with me!
I'm actually riled up. Usually I don't give a toss about the venomous bile I'm reading, but this takes the biscuit. Fuck people like this. Fuck them in the eye with a giant rusty pole.
"Liberals often say that premediated child murder (abortion) should be available to women because sometimes they get pregnant from being raped. "
Christianists often say nobody can have an abortion because a giant man with a long white beard who lives on cloouds says so.
Yet another Fundie that feels rape is little more than surprise sex, and women should suck it up and take it like good little baby makers.
Fucking dolt.
Also, I love how he degrades us men to the level that if we so much as see a bit of cleavage, we lose all fucking control, and fuck the nearest thing with legs. Seriously, dude, some of us know that no means no. Even if she's naked and doing a handstand in front of us. She says no, it means no touchie. Ignoring completely that rape is NOT about sex. It's not about lust. It's about assertion of power.
You know what hit me the worst in OP? This little gem of pure hatred and hipocrisy:
"If they are old enough to get pregnant, shouldn't they be old enough to assume responsibillity for their actions?"
What responsibillity? For being raped? It's even worse, considering at what age "women" can stay pregnant, especially since the age of first menstruation is going down every year. Technically, it is possible for a 12 year old (even younger!) to stay pregnant. What kind of responsibillity are we talking about? Even if we take somewhat less drastic example, say 16 year old that brings her baby up to term. What do we have there? A person that legally can't vote, can't drink and can't do many other things. And SFS is talking about responsibillity! Bah!!! /angry rant
Lets just change a few words and see if this "logic" stands up to reason-
If they are old enough to get shot, shouldn't they be old enough to assume responsibility for their actions? This includes considering what they might have done to bring on the shooting, like standing right where a bullet would be traveling right at that monent.
Hmmm... this doesn't seem right for some reason...
Rape has very little to do with sex, and very much to do with violence, misogynism and power. There are 80-year-old ladies being raped, what did they do to "arouse" the rapist?
Exactly, they are guilty of being born as women. Of course they should assume responsibility for that action!
Most abortions are done before week 14, a period during which most pregnancies end in spontaneous abortions anyway. Lots of them even before the woman realizes she's pregnant. Those can be constructed as God's premeditated child murders.
There is no baby or child at that stage. A one week old lump of cells have as much a chance of becoming a born child, as you have of winning a million dollars.
hmcook87
Why is it that whenever abortion and rape are mentioned in the same sentence, fundies always end up blaming the woman for her own rape.
Well, that is the only thing they can say, isn't it? It's the only "logical" way for them to defend their 100%-anti rape-stance. It has to be her fault, otherwise they have to rethink their belief system, and we know that fundies hate that..
God dammit SFS makes me sick...
"What a great God we serve who can bring innocent life into the world through an attack!"
This just makes me want to puke. Literally. How can anyone be so goddamned stupid and brainwashed to think that it's a great thing for a woman to have a baby as a result of rape. Fuck you and fuck the god you rode in on. After that, die in a fire you douchebag. You have a lot in common with a sperm cell. You have a 1 in 200 million chance of becoming human.
Are you kidding me? Even scant clothing can only slightly encourage, but never cause, a rape. The raped are INNOCENT!
"can bring innocent life into the world through an attack"
and make the innocent suffer? Not the greatest way to praise God, IMO.
Sorry, which actions should they take responsability for?, existing?, ovulating?(you said, "if they´re old enough to get pregnant", which is a BIOLOGICAL fact)
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