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[yes, had I continued with the pregnancy, I would not have lived]

I scanned many of your earlier posts and I can offer sympathy for your many troubles and your confusion, nonetheless whether one doctor or 100 doctors said that (in their opinion) you would die during the pregnancy, they offered their OPINION. You chose to decide life/death in place of allowing God to act in that regard. Your CHOICE was to kill your child and "save" yourself. You acted in the place of God's action. That's the entire story. I hope you are able to return to faithfulness to the teaching of the Church ASAP.

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[It´s much the same issues as when there´s a fallopian tube pregnancy - the same arguements emerge. The fetus doesn´t have any possible chance at life, and is endangering the mother´s life by continuing the pregnancy, certain death if the pregnancy advances far.]

Many differences in place - and still abortion is NOT allowed. Get back to me when you've become a moral theologian.

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Would you say that it's better for one martyr to to die when two were called to die?

catharina, CA 68 Comments [7/30/2009 9:56:19 PM]
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dpareja

Would you say that it's better for one martyr to to die when two were called to die?

Blood for the blood God! Skulls for the skull throne!

7/30/2009 10:04:23 PM

Nowonmai

Would you say that it's better for one martyr to to die when two were called to die?

Oh HELL no! Even the Catholic Church, the seat of misogyny gives a thumbs up for the termination of an ectopic pregnancy, you dolt!

7/30/2009 10:13:18 PM

seraphicreverie

Eh, fuck off, you self-righteous, ignorant cunt.

7/30/2009 10:24:56 PM

atrasicarius


7/30/2009 10:33:18 PM

Neil Morse

Even odds that catharina's had an abortion herself at some point in the past. It's always the ones who scream the loudest about it.

7/30/2009 10:36:22 PM

Painful

Wow, as some one who is in the situation that, if I were to get pregnant, it would be extremely high risk to myself and the child AND it is the result of abuse from a long term relationship with a WASP, I'm voting "Go to hell, go directly to hell, do not pass the pearly gates" here. Especially given that "demonic cult" the RCC's stance is even more lenient than this weirdo's.

7/30/2009 10:37:22 PM

The Brazilian

The Brazilian law allowed to terminate the pregnancy in that cases... And we have "God" mentioned in our Constitution. Talk about insane !

7/30/2009 10:37:46 PM

deadreckoning

seraphicreverie already said it, but it bears repeating.

You bible-thumping, close-minded, fucking cunt.
If I had a time machine I'd travel to when your mother was pregnant with you and punch her in the stomach.

7/30/2009 10:57:46 PM

hmcook87

Theres no point in presenting a logical argument, these people don't care about logic, they don't care about what makes objective sense, they don't care about anything other than stoping abortions.

7/30/2009 11:04:09 PM

Clown

Yup, that is such a strong and mighty God you got there. One that can be stopped by some doctors and one woman determined to survive... Why do you worship him again?

P.S. Way to go with spewing judgement for your god.

7/30/2009 11:22:40 PM

Dio Fa

You are neither moral nor a theologian, so shut your fucking mouth.

7/30/2009 11:31:26 PM

Pule Thamex

The crux of the matter is, does anyone give a fuck what your deranged God thinks or wants anyway?, only God botherers and assorted fundamental cultists do. Your asking someone in a difficult situation to consider the dictates of an imagined, non-existent, entity, when they have much more important matters to think about. You can turn your brain into a Swiss cheese as much as you like in support of your ridiculous fantasy but don't expect others to appreciate your gibberish.

7/30/2009 11:37:03 PM

PWEOTWEB

I hope you have an ectopic pregnancy you ignorant, moralising cunt. If you've never been in that position, then you are a piece of shit for saying that.

7/30/2009 11:41:43 PM

Semi-Christian

"Would you say that it's better for one martyr to to die when two were called to die?"

Yes. If the point of the death serves no purpose, or the result is unchanged by the choice...then yes. One is indeed better than two.

"You acted in the place of God's action."
So...don't take medicine or treat yourself, just let god heal you. I'm so sure that is what he wants you to do.

"Your CHOICE was to kill your child and "save" yourself."
It wasn't. Ignoring statistical probability, the choice was either they both die, they both live, or the baby dies. Adding in statistics, the matter is changed a great deal and there is simply no point in risking a life for the potential of another life that has significantly less chance of existing.

"That's the entire story."
Liar. The full story is NOT known to you and to even believe that you know it all is a massive logical fallacy on your part.

7/31/2009 12:05:51 AM

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Catholic church, everybody.

7/31/2009 12:25:25 AM



Bitch, I would LOVE to to be in the room if a doctor told you YOUR pregnancy was ectopic, and you were about to die unless it was terminated, just to see how fast you'd start begging for the procedure to commence.

7/31/2009 12:28:01 AM



Doctors never give opinions. If they´re wrong, people die, you know?. Second, you´re not a moral theologian, first of all and second, what´s the sense of the second sentence?. The child is going to die anyway, for pregnancy can´t go on. Whatever.

7/31/2009 12:40:15 AM

WMDKitty

DIAF, you heartless bitch!

7/31/2009 12:43:45 AM

jz456

Only human beings should be allowed on the internet.

7/31/2009 2:10:31 AM

clockworkgirl21

Again, to them, a woman is just a walking uterus.

7/31/2009 2:14:56 AM

BobsOldSocks

Don't you just love the way these pious pricks are soooo quick to pass the death penalty on those they no nothing about? Christianity = death cult. Can you imagine the whining and the rush to the nearest hospital if it was them? They're cowards, moral cowards. Beneath contempt.

7/31/2009 2:18:54 AM

LDM

Both my best friend and her baby are in the ground right now thanks to teachings of the Catholic church.

7/31/2009 2:34:54 AM

Thundersqueaks

I doubt catharina ignores the doctor's opinion when it concerns her health.

7/31/2009 3:09:31 AM

EvoPagan

I can honestly say, catharina, that I sincerely hope that you find yourself in the very same position that this woman was in. I think it would be a fascinating learning experience for you.

7/31/2009 3:16:25 AM

Lab Rat

Pro life?

Since when?

7/31/2009 3:25:06 AM
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