People have sex with people of the same sex for their own sexual gratification, there's no God involved in that. You want to ejaculate, and women want to reach orgasm, that's why you have sex with another person of the same sex. You are not doing God a favour, you are doing yourself a favour. Other people have sex with objects like vibrators and I can assure you that God didn't make them to have sex with vibrators. The reason they are having sex with vibrators is to satisfy themselves, the same way you satisfy yourself. Or did God create vibrator-squee human beings as well?
Don't fool yourself, you know very well you want satisfaction out of your own selfish heart. The same way other people want satisfaction from little children, or Michael Jackson with little boys, or R Kelly with tweens, or some sickos with animals. God didn't create you that way, you are just addicted to sin and sin controls you life. That's where Jesus comes into the picture, He wants to relieve you from sin slavery. You can be non-gay again, like Adam was!
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I trust that you can show some evidence that a god exists, that the god is your God, or that your God actually gives a damn about any of our sex lives? Not to mention, any evidence about what this alleged God created us to do (and, no, that collection of stories first told by primitive Middle Eastern goat-herders you call the Bible doesn't count)?
*crickets chirping*
Didn't think so. Sorry, you lose. Here's your consolation prize, a fine copy of our home game. Thank you for playing.
"People have sex with people of the same sex for their own sexual gratification, there's no God involved in that."
So God wants a threesome?
You want to ejaculate, and women want to reach orgasm, that's why you have sex with another person of the same sex. You are not doing God a favour, you are doing yourself a favour.
So what you're saying is that the correct translation of "In the beginning was the word" is "God cums first"?
That's where Jesus comes into the picture
"Dear Penthouse..."
The first paragraph, I couldn't agree more with. Of course you want satisfaction out of sex, regardless of the gender of your partner, and you certainly don't want God to participate as a threesome.
Then it gets creepy. For the umteenth time: CON-SEN-TING A-DULTS. What's so hard to understand about that?
Relieve from sin slavery? That must be letting go of all notions of sin, right? In other words, becoming atheists. Is that was Jesus wants us to do?
You can't be non-gay, and certainly not "again". Yo are born that way, and you will stay that way your whole life. The only thing you can do is forcing your orientation to hide, which will make you repressed and smothered, in effect a time bomb, ready to go off at any second.
Is that a healthy alternative to living a happy life with the person you love and being a productive member of society?
"People have sex with people of the same sex for their own sexual gratification, there's no God involved in that."
There's no god involved in any sex - god does not exist.
"Other people have sex with objects like vibrators and I can assure you that God didn't make them to have sex with vibrators."
Oh, lookee here, people, a bona fide mouth of god.
"...you are just addicted to sin and sin controls you life."
Wrong again, sin does not exist.
"That's where Jesus comes into the picture..."
And there's the hat trick! Jesus did not and does not exist. You're a slave to a ridiculous religion, built on lies.
People have sex with people of the same sex for their own sexual gratification, there's no God involved in that.
Maybe you should write more correctly:
"People have sex with people for their own sexual gratification, there´s no god involved with that"
Oh, for fuck's sake, here's a challenge:
Show me one bible-verse condemning pedophilia.
Until you manage that, I won't even fucking bother on the rest.
"You are not doing God a favour, you are doing yourself a favour."
You are supposed to have sex to do God a favour? Well then, Fuck Jesus.
I am quite confident that most heterosexuals enjoy sex and are doing so primarily for this enjoyment and not because they need to have children.
Lol - then why the hell did God make sex so fun?
"Right I'll make it enjoyable, I give it a purpose, but of cause everyone will know it's really a sin"
Correct me if I'm wrong rza, but haven't you got to believe in God's existence first, in order for your retard theory to be relevant. If there is a God, then you have just reduced Him to being no more than a retarded imbecile who hates the thought of someone, somewhere enjoying themselves. I bet that if mankind is like God, then God is always having sex with angels.
@ EvoPagan That sounds like the Baptist church I went to as a teenager, there sure was a lot of screaming and excitement after "Satan get out of me!"
Phfffbt, those pansies can't handle multiples.
So, God creates pleasure in sex, but that is bad, why?. Man, I wonder how the human race survives.
Pleasure is bad. Gotcha. And, apparently, you can't achieve orgasm with someone of the opposite gender.
No wonder fundies are so screwed up and uptight.
"You are not doing God a favour, you are doing yourself a favour."
Sounds like your god is a voyeuristic pervert.
"People have sex with people of the same sex for their own sexual gratification, there's no God involved in that"
That's one of the main pluss's!
But seriously your god doesn't exist.
"People have sex with people of the same sex for their own sexual gratification, there's no God involved in that. "
So sodomites don't say "oh god" when they're doing sodomy?
"vibrator-squee"????
Also, why do these morons keep comparing being gay to an addiction? Gay people aren't "addicted" to gay sex, they are just attracted to people with the same parts as them. It's entirely possible to be gay your whole life without EVER having sex.
Not only that, but whenever I read a post like this, I mentally replace each instance of "gay" with "straight" and find that I can't see any difference in the argument. Hmmm.
I do, in fact, have sex with other persons of the same sex for my own sexual gratification (and theirs, of course). Ditto for other persons of the opposite sex. I am doing myself a favor (and my partners a favor), and I am not doing God a favor. And God did not create me that way. Fundie is like... 50% correct! That might be a new record!
Well, since I don't believe in God, I try not to do any favours for him.
Did anyone else think of the Adam Lambert? lmfao.
shykid
You can be non-gay again, like Adam was!
Wait, non-gay "again"? You mean Adam was gay once? Well, they didn't teach me that in Sunday School.
"The same way other people want satisfaction from little children, or Michael Jackson with little boys, or R Kelly with tweens... "
Redundant pedobear is redundant.
simply not edible said: "Oh, for fuck's sake, here's a challenge:
Show me one bible-verse condemning pedophilia.
Until you manage that, I won't even fucking bother on the rest."
I'm also wondering how young Lot's daughters were and how drunk he really was when he banged them. At the very least it was incest, possibly pedophelia, and Lot was on god's good list.
You know what, rza?
I fuck whoever I want to fuck and I do it for my own pleasure and if God wants to watch, that perv, he better stay quiet!
(jadehawk)
"I think that vibrator-squee, is another case of fundies mangling works; that was probably supposed to be vibrator-esque."
I think you're right about that, and I also think that there are , in fact, people who were created to resemble vibrators.
In layman's terms, these are known as "epileptics".
*giggles, then grins* Verily, if there indeed be an afterlife like that of Hell, I am so going there for that.
Sweetie, fucking is good - as long as the person you are doing it with is cool with that. You know, informed consent? Oh yeah, I guess you don't. And by the way, I ... oh, never mind...
People have sex with people for their mutual sexual gratification; there's no God involved in that. You want to ejaculate, and women want to reach orgasm, that's why you have sex with another person. You are not doing God a favour, you are doing yourself a favour. Other people have sex with objects like vibrators and I can assure you that God didn't make them to have sex with vibrators, and if God wanted man to fly, He'd have given us wings. The reason they are having sex with vibrators is to satisfy themselves, the same way you satisfy yourself. Or did God create vibrator-squee (sic) human beings, clothes, public transportation, and central heating as well?
Don't fool yourself, you know very well you want satisfaction out of your own selfish heart, and as a wise man once said, who but a beggar would extol charity as a virtue? In the same way, other people want satisfaction from little children, or Michael Jackson with little boys, or R Kelly with tweens, or some sickos with animals. The only difference is, that's wrong, coercive, and harmful, and self-gratification is only declared sinful to be controlling and guilt-inducing. God didn't create you that way (or any other way), religious institutions fucked you over. You are just addicted to a fairy tale, and religion controls your life. That's where Jesus comes into the picture. He's a folksy little sock puppet for the gravy-sucking control freaks that run the fleecing machine that is religion.
fixed.
Don't fool yourself, you know very well you want satisfaction out of your own selfish heart.
Yeah, and I like air conditioning, rib-eye steaks, Isaiah suits and ice-cold martinis, too. I guess I'm going to hell for actually enjoying life instead of sitting around praying in a hair-shirt all day.
If that's the best argument you can come up with, rza, then you're not doing God any favors, either.
Having sex with people of the same sex or with things = bad
Being like Adam, therefore letting yourself get tempted into evil = good
Really?
Let us all pretend to believe in god and discuss this as Christians.
"People have sex with people of the same sex for their own sexual gratification"
Not being gay, I'll take you word for it, but yes that seems logically true.
"You are not doing God a favour, you are doing yourself a favour. Other people have sex with objects like vibrators and I can assure you that God didn't make them to have sex with vibrators."
Obviously, but why would god care? Doesn't he want us to have fun? Does he want to take away the good things? :( Does he want to tear down roller coasters and stop me having sugar? :( Or is there some imaginary line been drawn?
"Don't fool yourself, you know very well you want satisfaction out of your own selfish heart."
Doing something to bring pleasure and stress relief is selfish, but it is also a very nice part of living. God gave you free will to live your life, so have fun and live in a way that will entertain him. Try things, learn new stuff, and explore many new exciting things. God never said "Don't make yourself feel good." and I'm sure he doesn't mind his creations having fun.
"The same way other people want satisfaction from little children, or Michael Jackson with little boys, or R Kelly with tweens, or some sickos with animals."
God is probably against those things (despite the lack of evidence for this idea in the bible...there really should be...) because they are people forcing others into acts that may hurt or negatively affect another individual without permission
"God didn't create you that way, you are just addicted to sin and sin controls you life."
Sin and pleasure are two remarkable different parts of life. Please learn to understand the simple difference in definition.
"That's where Jesus comes into the picture, He wants to relieve you from sin slavery."
Well that sounds good. Some awesome peace loving guy wants to help me out, Sweet. What a nice guy.
"You can be non-gay again, like Adam was!"
Yeah...I guess following the fundy logic, that is indeed true. The real question is whether anyone of that sexual orientation should follow that choice, not how quickly they can be forced to do it.
"You are not doing God a favour, you are doing yourself a favour."
No shit, Sherlock!
"Other people have sex with objects like vibrators and I can assure you that God didn't make them to have sex with vibrators."
And here you could have been correct, if only you had stopped at "I can assure you that God didn't make them"...
Seriously, maybe Babblegod didn't create people to have sex with vibrators/dildos, but so what? People have been having sex with dildos since waaay before they created Babblegod (since at least the Upper Paleolithic, according to Wikipedia . 28,000 years old dildo FTW!)
[People have sex with people of the same sex for their own sexual gratification, there's no God involved in that. You want to ejaculate, and women want to reach orgasm, that's why you have sex with another person of the same sex.]
So you're basically saying that heterosexual sex is unsatisfactory, and gay sex is where all the enjoyment lies.
Feel free to come out of the closet at any time.
[You are not doing God a favour, you are doing yourself a favour. Other people have sex with objects like vibrators and I can assure you that God didn't make them to have sex with vibrators. The reason they are having sex with vibrators is to satisfy themselves, the same way you satisfy yourself. Or did God create vibrator-squee human beings as well?]
So... pleasure and enjoyment = sin and selfishness.
Fundies are so... anti-fun.
If God didn't want us to have sex in various ways, then why did he create sexual urges?
And I'm pretty sure that Puritanism caused far more sexual deviancy than normal enjoyment of sexual pleasure ever did.
And what's a vibrator-squee human being?
Reminds me of this fundie: "Who says we're entitled to the pursuit of happiness? Man's law? Nothing in God's law says we have the right to be happy. Humans are here to make God happy, not themselves happy. Homosexuality does not make God happy." ~ SadieOC
Don't believe me? see for yourself http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=62411
Waitwaitwait.
Did you just imply there was some point in time where Adam was in fact gay?
And then there's the lovely space-time paradox created by saying Jesus saved Adam from "sin slavery."
Sense. You, sir, make none.
By the way that works with heterosexuals too. Face it, sex is just way too much fun for you to handle.
But oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize the 'big man' needed any favors from little old me.
I mean, seriously, this so called omnipotent god dude seems to be growing more impotent with every fundy comment... I wonder why that is.
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