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[On Iranians]

Every since I was in the eighth grade and the Iranians held the people hostage during Carter's Administration, I have seen nothing of them on news stories except "Death to Americans", "America is the great Satan", "Israel will be wiped of the map" etc. These muslims extremists cannot be converted so they will always have a vengeful attitude towards America today, tomorrow, the day after that and the day after that. When Christian Missionaries try and spread the gospels to these people they wind up getting beheaded. They will never have any Positive influence in our society at all. If a military action is forth coming, It might be a blessing to try and exterminate this pestilence once and for all. I am not a war monger, just think the situation has gone on long enough and if not dealt with fast and effectively will only progress into something much worse. If you don't believe me ask Charlie Daniels. He will tell you the same thing.

john boland, Rapture Ready 58 Comments [7/31/2009 3:33:06 PM]
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Orion

Because shooting them will make them like us.

7/31/2009 7:11:14 PM

shykid

Iranians don't have a moral duty to like Americans, just as you don't have a moral duty to like them.

Hell, it doesn't matter who you are--somebody, somewhere is going to hate you. And hurting 'em for it certainly isn't going to change their negative opinion of you.

7/31/2009 7:21:57 PM

jsonitsac

And the reason for that may have something to do with the fact that the Iranian supreme government tended to have a great deal of control over the content being broadcast out of Iran. I'm sure there are many Iranians who hate their regime, want real freedom, and would be more than happy to overthrow their dictatorship.

Oh, and guess what they've been doing for the last month and a half? Give it some time, and those fundies will get sent to the dustbin of history.

7/31/2009 7:56:39 PM

katie5000

"It might be a blessing to try and exterminate this pestilence once and for all. I am not a war monger

Contradiction!

"When Christian Missionaries try and spread the gospels to these people they wind up getting beheaded."

Hmm, I wonder why. Y'know, you'd think that'd be a tip off for you guys to quit sending people over there. Just sayin'.

7/31/2009 8:03:26 PM

HeathenAngel

<i>I am not a war monger,</i>

You just play one on the message boards, right?

DIAF

7/31/2009 8:54:15 PM

werewolf

Who the fuck is Charlie Daniels? Is he an expert on Middle Eastern politics?

7/31/2009 9:23:30 PM

DevilsChaplain

@werewolf

No, but he's an expert on the Devil goin' down to Georgia.

7/31/2009 9:25:40 PM

Dr. Novakaine

The Iranian people are for the most part actually very genial towards Americans. It is the minority of extremists that ruin the image, and they happen to be very loud.

Of course, the same goes for Christianity. People like, say, you ruin it for the reasonable ones.

7/31/2009 10:34:49 PM

simply not edible

It seems that RR are the new Daleks.

7/31/2009 11:35:55 PM

Musicalbookworm

Let me get this straight, you want to wipe out a very ancient civilization because you don't like their religion, and you think this is different from (rare) Muslim extremists who want to wipe America or Israel. On what planet does this make sense?

7/31/2009 11:43:22 PM

aaa

I detect some rather sinister overtones.

8/1/2009 12:02:57 AM

Rallymodeller

Lemme think. Why would the Iranians have a beef with the US?

Oh, right. It was the ham-fisted continual intervention in Iranian politics up to and including the 1950s CIA-backed overthrow of a democratically-elected government in order to put US-friendly Shah Reza Pahlevi back on the Lion Throne (from which he had been deposed by his own people).

So here's a Top Tip to the US: Keep the fuck out of international politics because it always ends up biting you on the ass at some point down the line.

8/1/2009 12:51:08 AM

xplicit_UK

How exactly is "Death to Americans" in any significant way different from "exterminate this pestilence once and for all"?

8/1/2009 12:51:50 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Er, well, as insane as Iran has become, wiping them all out is not an acceptable solution. Go back and try again.

8/1/2009 1:23:28 AM

Clown

"Thou shall not kill." Could it be more simple than that? Ah, yes, yes it could.

"Love thy neighbours as yourself. Love your enemies."

Read your own "godgiven" book.

8/1/2009 1:32:48 AM

solomongrundy

Not knowing much (well, anything) about Charlie Daniels I visited his band's website.
Now having read some of the 'Soapbox' feature I have to wonder if he's not suffering from some form of senile dementia.

8/1/2009 2:03:35 AM

Swedish Pagan

Its America's action in Afganistan during and especially after the war against Soviet, the actions in Iraq (first supporting Sadam, then attacking him) and Iran (puting the Shah back on the throne when his people didn't want him there), the actions in Korea and Vietnam, in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in Nicaragua, and many other nations, that have caused people around the world to scream Death to Americans and America is the great Satan.

Most of the Muslims are no more extremists than most American Christians. The American Christians would not like to "be converted" either. If Muslim Missionaries tried to spread their gospel in America, you would cry persecution, and you would at least want to behead them. Treat others as you want to be treated, remember?

You sound just like a war monger. Stupid is as stupid does, as Forrest Gump says.
Trying to "exterminate this pestilence once and for all" will only make even more people hate America. This notion, that you in America are the ones who get to decide who's right and who's wrong, is not helping your case one iota.

Edit. So that is a Charlie Daniels. Well, anyone who has a beltbuckle bigger than his brain is really someone to listen to. Or not...

8/1/2009 2:24:19 AM

Eden

When Christian Missionaries try and spread the gospels to these people they wind up getting beheaded.

What the bible has to say about missionaries of other faiths:
"And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God.
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people."
(Deuteronomy 13:5-7)

Deuteronomy 13 goes even so far as ordering the killing of all the inhabitants of a village, if the inhabitants of said village refuse to kill this prophet ;)

So with other words, if there are muslims out there who kill christian missionaries, they just obey commands that you have in your own bible.
Now tell me why you don´t obey the commands of your bible and also kill all foreign missionaries in your country? According to the bible god wants you to do it.
And if the laws of your country don´t agree with this, they must surely be influenced by liberals, communists and Satan

;)

8/1/2009 2:50:22 AM

BlackMageJ

I have seen nothing of them on news stories except "Death to Americans"

That's because you only watch Fox News.

8/1/2009 2:54:32 AM

LDM

"Every since I was in the eighth grade and the Iranians held the people hostage during Carter's Administration, I have seen nothing of them on news stories except "Death to Americans", "America is the great Satan", "Israel will be wiped of the map" etc."

That puts you and me at roughly the same age, since I was also in junior high at the time. But since I've chosen to be open minded, I've seen two sides of Iranians, the government controlled "Death to America" pseudo-zealots, and a nation of warm friendly people who really have nothing personal against Americans and just want the best life possible for their own families, just like everyone else in the world. Such is life under a dictatorship, you say what you have to say to save your own ass.

"These muslims extremists cannot be converted so they will always have a vengeful attitude towards America today, tomorrow, the day after that and the day after that. When Christian Missionaries try and spread the gospels to these people they wind up getting beheaded."

Just muslim extremists? Mainstream muslims, buddhists, hindus, atheists, non-rapture christians, and anyone else who doesn't share your fairy tales don't want to be converted either. People's beliefs stem from either heritage and tradition or long thought out personal decisions. Evangelist and missionary tactics are insulting and annoying. No one deserves to die for their beliefs but what do you expect when you try to force people from one form of slavery to another.


"They will never have any Positive influence in our society at all."

They will if given the chance. Many Iranians are well-educated, intelligent, and as demonstrated in recent weeks, starved for change in their country.

"If a military action is forth coming, It might be a blessing to try and exterminate this pestilence once and for all. I am not a war monger, just think the situation has gone on long enough and if not dealt with fast and effectively will only progress into something much worse."

If military action is forthcoming I will thoroughly renounce my US citizenship and move to Canada. Fortunately the idiot warmonger is gone, and the current president is more interested in the diplomatic approach. And how is unleashing nuclear warheads going to make things better? If you think the US would come out of that unscathed then I've got some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you. For one thing the rest of the world would turn on us even worse than they already have. Do I even need to start a sentence with "For another"?


"If you don't believe me ask Charlie Daniels. He will tell you the same thing."

Charlie Daniels is nothing more than a drunk has-been, one hit back in the 70's country singer. WTF does he have to do with anything?

8/1/2009 3:38:55 AM

Elphada

Charlie Daniels? LMAO!


@werewolf: a kind of Southern rock person. As mentioned The Devil went down to Georgia is perhaps his most famous recording.

8/1/2009 7:36:43 AM

Caustic Gnostic

Swedish Pagan:
So that is a Charlie Daniels. Well, anyone who has a beltbuckle bigger than his brain is really someone to listen to. Or not...

WIN!

I think old Charlie's Saddle Tramp album has some decent tracks on it, but that hardly qualifies him for anything beyond country music.

8/1/2009 7:51:56 AM

Aethernaut

I am not a war monger...

No? Well, you're apparently bigoted and genocidal whether you're a warmonger or not.

8/1/2009 8:09:39 AM

GreasetrapTheViking

All I learned from Charlie Daniels was that if I beat Satan in a fiddle duel, I'll win a solid gold fiddle. Also that Satan plays one badass fiddle.

On topic though though, anti-american sentiment in the middle east has FUCK ALL to do with christianity, or even religion.
These war mongers make it out to be some kind of holy war, so no one questions who, or what, the real enemy is.

8/1/2009 1:07:36 PM

Marc

Do you not see how this:

It might be a blessing to try and exterminate this pestilence once and for all.

Negates this?

I am not a war monger

8/2/2009 11:21:21 AM
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