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Two couples fatally shot while camping in different countries more than 30 years apart may have been victims of the same man: a drifter who authorities say was a religious zealot and disapproved of relationships between unmarried couples.

Joseph Henry Burgess, who died in a shootout with New Mexico sheriff's deputies last week, had been wanted in Canada as a suspect in the murders of two university students who were fatally shot on a Vancouver Island beach June 21, 1972.

Investigators in Sonoma County, Calif., also wanted to talk to him. The fatal shootings of two camp counsellors whose bodies were found on a Jenner beach Aug. 18, 2004, bore a striking resemblance to the crime up north.

Little is known about Burgess, but authorities say the New Jersey native moved in the 1960s to Canada to avoid the draft. During his time there, he lived in a religious commune and called himself Job, in reference to the biblical figure, said Dan Creally, a retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer who helped investigate the 1972 slayings.

Ann Durrant, 20, and Lief Karlsson, 21, were shot multiple times in the head at point blank range in their sleeping bag on Vancouver Island, according to Canadian police.

Creally said a woman on the beach told authorities that she had seen Burgess cleaning a .22 calibre rifle - the same type of weapon used in the killings - and said Burgess had told her he disapproved of Durrant and Karlsson's relationship because they were unmarried.

A police dog discovered Burgess' belongings, including his identification card and passages from the Bible he had written out, ripped up and discarded near the scene of the murders, Creally said. His fingerprint was also at the scene.

Joseph Henry Burgess, yahoo news  21 Comments [7/31/2009 12:18:33 PM]
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I hear mental hospitals have special treatment for these cases.

7/31/2009 12:29:02 PM

[...a drifter who authorities say was a religious zealot and disapproved of relationships between unmarried couples...]

Cold-blooded murder, however, he was perfectly fine with.

Fucking hypocrite.

7/31/2009 12:33:52 PM


How the fuck are people supposed to get married if they don't date first to realize they like each other?

Oh wait, I forgot, women are property. Just pick a hot one. Would you like paper or plastic?

7/31/2009 12:34:10 PM

Swedish Pagan

Why can't people LEAVE OTHER PEOPLE ALONE? If you don't like sleeping together with someone when you're not married, then don't do it.
Other peoples actions are their business, not yours. Assholes!

7/31/2009 1:23:09 PM

Doctor Whom

passages from the Bible he had written out, ripped up and discarded

Including "Thou shalt not kill"?

7/31/2009 1:25:49 PM


So much of their precious Ten Commandments (tm)...

7/31/2009 1:38:08 PM


They allow people to murder unmarried people in the bible actually.

Of course, the Bible contradicts itself over and over. The ten commandments say "Don't murder" and the other parts of the bible say "KILL 'EM ALL!"

Word of God!

7/31/2009 2:53:35 PM


Murdering for Jesus.

Unfortunately, not new.

7/31/2009 4:11:07 PM

Wait, did you skip that there is a THOU SHALT NOT KILL but not a similar one about people who are not married?.

7/31/2009 4:23:43 PM

Old Viking

Why is this here?

7/31/2009 4:29:53 PM


I often get people telling me I have no place in others religion. I agree, but only if their religion has nothing to do with me. I'll stay out of your life just fine so long as you stay out of mine. shit like this is added to the ever increasing Mt. Everest of examples that Christianity is almost incapable of doing that.

Islam hasn't done a very good job of leaving people alone either. and while I certainly get most would never do anything like this, it's hard to overlook the few nuts that do.

how much of this shit am I really expected to put up with, the church seems to think it can tell everyone how to live, it pushes it's own view on abortion, euthanasia, and gay marriage harder and more stubbornly than anyone.

how many generations are we behind on science, technology, and medicine. a great example on that is how big a stink they threw over stem cells. and they still try to ban books and stop the teaching of evolution.

I recall something in the constitution about how the church is supposed to have no power over how the rest of the world is run. it's time someone reminded them of it.

Leave us alone.

7/31/2009 5:00:37 PM


Wow it's like Friday the 13th for real.

7/31/2009 5:48:32 PM


NEWS FLASH: Marriages develop from relationships between unmarried people.

7/31/2009 9:16:29 PM

Dr. Novakaine

The most dangerous thing in the world is a hyper-religious psycho. They believe they are doing God's work, and anyone who doesn't agree with them is against God. That makes them impossible to reason with, and means that it's almost inevitable that someone will lose their life.

7/31/2009 10:11:11 PM

El Zorro

I don't know if this one deserves a fundie vote. The guy is obviously a psycho, beyond most fundies.

8/1/2009 9:00:38 AM


Good riddance. People like him are a blight on society.

I wonder if this has been posted at Rapture Ready yet.

8/2/2009 7:42:21 PM

Doubting Thomas

It's OK because his neighbor's dog told him to do it.

Strange, but I could see David J. Stewart doing something like this.

8/4/2009 12:08:43 PM



12/1/2009 11:15:48 AM

Quantum Mechanic

It's the Monster of Florence!

12/1/2009 11:22:52 AM

Mark Poe

Praise God for more death!

1/16/2013 12:02:38 PM


And no one thought that maybe it was a bad idea to let this guy roam around with a gun? If he's not in custody yet, they'd better hop to it before he starts giving god some serious competition in the murder department.

1/16/2013 12:13:36 PM

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