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KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — An Islamic court in Malaysia has sentenced a Muslim woman to be flogged with a rattan cane for having a beer in a nightclub, a court official said Tuesday.

It is rare for a woman in Malaysia to be sentenced to caning — a punishment usually reserved for men in various crimes ranging from rape to bribery.

Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno was sentenced Monday to six lashes and a fine of 5,000 ringgit ($1,400) for consuming alcohol, said a Shariah High Court official who declined to be identified because he was not authorized to make public statements.

Shukarno, a 32-year-old model, pleaded guilty in the court in eastern Pahang state to a charge of drinking beer when Islamic authorities raided a hotel nightclub in August 2008.

Islamist fundies in Malaysia, Google 22 Comments [7/31/2009 12:19:27 PM]
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#997665

atrasicarius

7/31/2009 12:21:58 PM

#997670

Daeva

......

wow.

7/31/2009 12:30:28 PM

#997698

emau99

Ha! Justice is served!

That'll teach her to...wait, what?

7/31/2009 12:59:17 PM

#997699

aaa

Note to self: Smuggle more booze to Malaysia, out of pure 'fuck you' to these hardass zealots. And deploy landmines around the compound.

7/31/2009 12:59:37 PM

#997703

No One

God damnit Malaysia, you are making me not like one of my favorite cities...

It just rolls of the tongue so nice...

Kuala Lumpur~
Kuala Lumpur~
Kuala Lumpur~!

7/31/2009 1:06:53 PM

#997714

Swedish Pagan

They really need to get their priorities straight!
Drinking beer - not harming anyone else (as long as it's done with moderation).
Killing people - harming very many, not only the killed ones, terminally so, but their husbands and wives, ther children, their parents, their friends.

7/31/2009 1:17:26 PM

#997716

Zeus Almighty

Well at least she wasn't raped. In that case they'd have stoned her to death.

Also, isn't Islamic model an oxymoron?

7/31/2009 1:19:46 PM

#997728

Clown

Damn. It's a sad world in which religious police rule.

7/31/2009 1:36:41 PM

#997756

tracer

See? Prohibition works!

7/31/2009 2:39:37 PM

#997770

Count Zapolai

Ok, here's the thing- I don't drink, I really think it's a bad idea to drink, and I think it's an important plus point for the Islamic religion that it calls on it's followers to abstain. All very sensible.

What it certainly doesn't say is that Muslims have the right to force other Muslims to accept that advice. It's strongly recommended that they should, but it's a matter of personal discretion.

So why would it matter to Mr A if Mr B doesn't comply with those rules? It's Mr B who, in their shared view, is putting his eternity at risk, not Mr A. It's a similar deal as regards the use of hijab etc.

It would be nice to see people of moderate (or dare I say it, genuine) religious belief criticising these views. As a non-believer, it looks like simple prejudice- but fundamentalism is probably the most severe threat to religion there is; and really, it's the job of religious people to deal with it.

7/31/2009 3:03:03 PM

#997776

Eden

I wonder if a male muslim in the same situation as Kartika would´ve gotten the same sentence
(considering how misogynist the islamic system is, I suspect that a male muslim would have just gotten some kind of verbal admonishment)

7/31/2009 3:15:33 PM

#997912

WMDKitty

What the hell? Arrested, fined, and caned for having a beer?

7/31/2009 4:12:25 PM

#997960

Not authorised to make public statements?. Very brave of them!

7/31/2009 4:26:45 PM

#997964

Old Viking

Sounds religious to me.

7/31/2009 4:28:10 PM

#998057

Vince

this is the part where I question again why world is ok with this.

7/31/2009 5:04:09 PM

#998110

"this is the part where I question again why world is ok with this."

because they tend to fly planes into buildings and cut off heads when people don't kiss their asses

and usually they have all the oil, too

7/31/2009 5:48:00 PM

#998234

argv

@Vince

They aren't. Why do you think it's the subject of a news story?

7/31/2009 8:35:43 PM

#998244

Frogflayer

I drink beer and get caned regularly - but this is still so not right.
I lived in Kuwait for two years and the thing that annoyed me most about the whole temperance bit was the hypocrisy. These are the rules but we don't have to follow them.
Taught me how to brew a decent wine though.

7/31/2009 8:54:44 PM

#998263

GodotIsWaiting4U

I'VE SEEN THINGS
I'VE SEEN THEM WITH MY EYES
I'VE SEEN THINGS
THEY'RE OFTEN IN DISGUISE
LIKE
CARROTS
HANDBAGS
CHEESE
TOILETS
RUSSIANS
PLANETS
HAMSTERS
WEDDINGS
POETS
STALIN
KUALA LUMPUR!
PYGMIES
BUDGIES
KUALA LUMPUR!

7/31/2009 9:18:59 PM

#1001019

John_in_Oz

They're insane.
But so are all the prohibitionists.

8/5/2009 3:01:43 AM

#1001119

JohnTheAtheist

So, the punishment for rape and having a beer are one and the same?

Thanks for the reminder that it isn't just christians that are the problem. The problem is religious faith itself.

8/5/2009 8:37:18 AM

#1002594

Faxon

Wait, from rape TO bribery? Is bribery considered worse there than rape?

8/8/2009 2:05:30 AM