This is what I have been saying for awhile...
I have had a VERY BAD Feeling, about this....O wants to cut life short for the elderly...
I knew his endgame would be the Beginning of Life...Woman has a Child that will be born with Disabilites, Gov't run healthcare would PROBABLY would MAKE A woman Terminate or LOSE all COVERAGE of INsurance and anyother help she may be entitled too and Child too... O believes in partial birth abortion, so this doesn't surprise me....
O is Just EVIL he is in essence the devil
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And this post proves that posters to Rupture Ready either:
1) Cannot be bothered to do any research on Government-Run Health/Medicare systems, such as Britain's National Health Service, that care for children born with disabilities, or
2) Believes the hype that's being pumped out by right wing news media, such as Fox News, & by existing private Home Medical Organisations, in order to discredit any attempts to create a U.S National Medicare Service...
Name one country with a government-run health care system in which a woman has to abort children with disabilites or lose coverage.
Well, the fact that you can't probably doesn't mean that there isn't one.
So the gist of your hobby is to spout untruthful and fanciful gibberish. I grudgingly admit it might have a beneficial effect for you, similar perhaps to primal scream therapy whose potency many have attested to. Let me try:-
G is a rancid sack of rotten fish and will cause gullible fools to lose what little of their minds that remain. J is a filthy cumsock and is really S in disguise and will cause mankind to descend into a pit of horror.
Hmmm! 'Course, as you see, I'm not as good as you, I can't quite seem to do the untruthful bit. No, I must admit, it doesn't really do anything for me. It's a boring hobby.
Woman has a Child that will be born with Disabilites, Gov't run healthcare would PROBABLY would MAKE A woman Terminate or LOSE all COVERAGE of INsurance and anyother help she may be entitled too and Child too
No, that's what happens now. Obama's plan is to stop companies from denying coverage due to pre-existing conditions. Under the present system, companies can deny coverage after you've already become sick, claiming it was pre-existing.
*facepalm*
Translation from fundie-speak: "I have heard of this idea from right wing media. It was on tv, so it must be true. I never did research it, but it's coming from someone I disagree with. In order to cover my lack of true research, I will spew lies, capitalize random words and appeal to emotions."
T I I VERY BAD F O I B L W C D G PROBABLY MAKE A T LOSE COVERAGE IN C O O J EVIL
Anyone want to Bible Code this? Maybe it says something? All I can make is this:
T II VERY BAD. FOIB L.W.C.D PROBABLY MAKE A.T. LOSE COVERAGE IN CO. O.J. EVIL.
April probably talks like Torgo. And let me tell you something. I have lived in what you RR lads would call a "Socialist hellhole" almost all of my life.
The government hospitals offer quite a bit of help to the disabled in form of assistants, therapy and other stuff that actually work. And it's quite a bit cheaper than the american system.
You know, if the moRRons spent half the effort they do coming up with new ways to talk about Obama without saying his name as it actually is on learning about reality, the forum would collapse from inactivity.
Oh, and more lies about the health care bill? Just shut up already. There are a couple legitimate arguments of concern about it, but they aren't nearly enough to make it a bad system compared to what we have already.
Don't wanna be an American idiot.
Don't want a nation under the new media.
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind fuck America.
Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Where Everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
Well that's enough to argue.
Well maybe I'm the faggot America.
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda.
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.
Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
Well then that's enough to argue.
Don't wanna be an American idiot.
One nation controlled by the media.
Information nation of hysteria.
It's going out to idiot America.
Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
Well that's enough to argue.
I have a very bad feeling about your English, is that your second, or maybe third, language?
I live several thousand miles away, and even I know that Obama is not promoting euthanasia for the elderly. Quite the contrary; he want's them to be able to write a living will about what kind of life-sustaining treatments they want, if they get terminally ill.
We have government run health care here, and no-one is MAKING anyone terminate any pregnancies. The parents are given the option, sure, but it's their choice.
The great thing about government run healthcare is that it's not based on coverage or insurance. Everyone is guaranteed the same level of care, at a reasonable price. Here in Sweden one visit to the doctor costs about the same as two new dvd movies (one and a half really popular ones, or six to nine of the Nice Price ones, tihi).
I would give the man the benefit of a doubt, and say that the partial birth abortions are probably only performed when there is no chance of the baby having a life. Maybe it's going to be riddled with excrutiating pain for a week or two before an inevitable death, or the fetus has not developed a brain, or stomach wall or face, or something like that. Lesser of two evils is probably the key, here as in most abortions.
I was born into a country with nationalized health care. I grew up across the street from a girl who was born blind and with down syndrome. There was a boy down the street who only had one arm. Funnily enough these children were not only allowed to be born (i.e. you're full of shit) they were cared for with the best medical equipment and services available to man (so, you're full of shit).
On another note, I can see (don't know if it happens) a private insurance company denying a mother care if she's got a disabled baby (cost effectiveness and all). I'm thinking of the movie "John Q." when I say this.
Actually government run healthcare would insure that the child got healthcare no matter what. And that the woman would have had adequate prenatal care as to prevent the pregnancy.
Because not all disorders are diabetes, some are things like Edward's Syndrome which is horrible.
You're right to be scared. We have universal health care in Canada and the elderly are being put to death on a regular basis. Children born with disabilities are left exposed to the elements rather than cared for, and...
Wait, that was Sparta, not Canada. Everything here is great.
Honestly, I simply don't get why Americans conservatives are so shit-scared of universal health care. You already spend more tax dollars per capita on health care than any other country with a nationalized health care system.
A fair amount of the people screaming socialism, evil yurop, all that just have no clue what they're talking about thanks to ignorance and the party line. What happens when politics turns into more of an advertising campaign than a discussion about what's best for the country.
Basic facts - We spend a higher percentage of taxes on healthcare than pretty much all socialized programs do, we spend twice as much overall compared to these other socialized programs, and both of these factors do not lead to overall better health (in fact we're lagging behind a bit but not much). And the most basic fact, denying people quality healthcare because they're poor and bankrupting people with more debilitating issues is just plain wrong.
Meanwhile, the media and our politics are more interested in this bullshit about 'THIS HEALTHCARE PLAN WILL KILL OLD PEOPLE AND RAPE BABIES.'
Well, I know my English could be better, but...
What the fuck is she talking about? I don't have a clue.
MfG
"This is what I have been saying for awhile...
I have had a VERY BAD Feeling, about this....O wants to cut life short for the elderly...
I knew his endgame would be the Beginning of Life...Woman has a Child that will be born with Disabilites, Gov't run healthcare would PROBABLY would MAKE A woman Terminate or LOSE all COVERAGE of INsurance and anyother help she may be entitled too and Child too... O believes in partial birth abortion, so this doesn't surprise me....
O is Just EVIL he is in essence the devil"
Translation:
'OMG!!!111ONE11 We've got a BLACK man in the White House?! And he's a LIBERAL?! The sky is falling, the SKY IS FALLING!!!111eleventyone1!! Armageddon! Ragnarok! It's the APOCALYPSE everyone! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!'
Well, it is as far as the Repubicans, Religious Right, Neocons, Inbreds etc are concerned. For the rest of us who live on Planet Reality, life goes on...
All that shit is much more likely to happen as long as your "health care" is in the hands of for-profit insurance companies.
"Health insurance" is for people who never get sick--because as soon as you get sick, they will do their damnedest to find a reason not to pay your medical bills, or to pay as little as possible, and stick you with the biggest co-pays and deductibles that they can get away with.
We will never have true health care reform in this country until the for-profit insurance companies are put out of business. They know it, and they are scared shitless of it. And all or almost all of the Republican Congress critters (House & Senate)are on the payrolls of insurance/pharmaceutical companies (by way of huge campaign donations), and a lot of the Democrats are as well.
We're never going to have real change of any kind in this country until the people we elect to represent us actually start to make some decisions and cast some votes based on what benefits the people, not what benefits the corporations.
You asshat fundies are incredible. My daughter has affixiation issues and guess what, the insurance companies won't pay for even half of her care, meanwhile, it's bankrupting me to the point of poverty. Because not only do I have to keep paying ridiculous insurance premiums, I also have to foot the bill for all of her care on top of that. This isn't right.
"I have had a VERY BAD Feeling, about this....O wants to cut life short for the elderly"
Says the person who thinks Healthcare infringes their religious right not to have Healthcare. On the board that wants to set modern medicine back 500 years.
Confused?
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