I cannot say where or with whom I spoke with. I don't want to cause this person problems.
===== So you're making all up then?
I will say my husband and I spoke with an elected official. He is a christian.
==== His religion, or lack of it, has nothing wahtsoever to do with his ability as a public representative. Nor should it!
He said, "off the record" that the democrats and some republicans in government are trying to make our country like Europe
==== Then good for Obama. Europe has a higher standard of living overall than the US now has after the GWB years. And generally we are healthier because we get immediate health care which is government sponsored. Our governments want us to be healthy and not a drain on the common purse if we should fall ill.
and the rest of the world.
=== I doubt is any western government wants its people to suffer like in the 3rd world! So there's a weakness in your argument for starters.
That Obama's agenda is definitely to make us like France.
=== I live in France and I can only admire the health care I get here. We practice pre-emptive care. I see my doc every 3 months for checks. If he is concerned about anything I see a specialist within usually a couple of days and the problem is sorted out very quickly, so I can get back into being fully useful asap. So clearly this Lady J is quite ignorant about France and the rest of Europe. Pathetic that she should lie to cover her ignorance.
That the rest of the world thinks that America's way of living is too prosperous.
=== America's wealth is being drained in wars in which is should not be involved. These have their roots in a skewed foreign policy towards the Middle East. America's dept is now so great that likely this generation's grandchildren will still be paying it off. Thanks Georgie!
We are so much more advanced,
=== Many Americans are very advanced. But there are lots of knuckle-draggers too - like you. Your primitive beliefs, lack of education, ignorance of the world beyond your yard and general inbred stupidity are such that you are permanently hamstrun in the intellectual stakes.
and we consume more than all of the rest of the world,
=== In a world of diminishing resources, this is certainly nothing to be proud of.
that they are trying to bring us down to their level, instead of helping the rest to come up.
=== You are keeping yourself down by your own stupidity. Europe doesn't want an ignorant or poor America. We are partners, and would far prefer to see you prosper.
They don't like capitalism, so they are actively seeking to destroy and restructure our country from the way it is.
=== More ignorance and scaremongering. Europe is capitalist, despite is social conscience. We are not so stupid as to realise that the health and wellbeing of our people has to be paid for. It's a question of balance. Knuckledraggers can't hack this equation for some reason.
All the stuff that seems like it's being done on purpose, is. I know that none of this is new to people here, but it was so strange to hear someone who knows, in person actually talking about the things we are guessing at here on the boards.
===Trust me on this one, for it is a turism; politicians say what they reckon their audience wants to hear. It's part of the vote-gaining process.
I just wanted to share this with you all.
=== Why should you think I would ever want to hear such rubbish?
He also said he sees great tribulation and upheaval coming to us because so many here (I mean in our country) are against it, and the government knows we are.
=== As I said. He sussed you out and saw you were a Rapturite, so he pressed the tribulation button. He's probably laughing at your gullibility and the ease with which he could manipulate it.
He kinda hinted at more, but it seemed like speculation so I won't repeat it. This is the information that he was adamant about.
===As I said. Tell the punter what he wants to hear, and he'll guarantee his re-election.
===With so many of this ilk, the gods/fate/destiny help America. You are all doomed! Doomed! Doomed! Seriously, if this sort of religious andingnorant idiot do manipulate your politicians, or even become politicians, then my little 'doom' joke could become a very serious matter for all of us.