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It becomes extremely dangerous when materialistic men are set in positions of power to dictate that which the masses will believe in regard to human morality. Hardened evolutionists are determined not to merely let men choose for themselves the type of morality they will follow. Evolution is foisted upon people, from kindergarten to the grave. Evolutionist zealots are dedicated to wiping out every religion but their own. Atheism and only atheism is their creed and their objective. Darwinism inherently teaches the most vicious set of moral principles. Declaring that man is but an animal, instruction is then given that the most successful animals are those that are the first to attack and destroy. The collected views men are taught determine their system of morals and their way of life.

Vance Ferrell, evolution-facts.org 56 Comments [8/25/2009 2:16:52 PM]
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8/25/2009 2:22:00 PM

Churchy LaFemme

"Evolutionist zealots are dedicated to wiping out every religion but their own."

Unlike, say, Christians.

"Darwinism inherently teaches the most vicious set of moral principles."

Um, no it doesn't. You should try reading a basic biology textbook sometime.

"Declaring that man is but an animal,"

Well, he's not an vegetable or mineral, so what does that leave?

"instruction is then given that the most successful animals are those that are the first to attack and destroy."

Yep, sounds like humans to me, but then I've studied history.

"The collected views men are taught determine their system of morals and their way of life."

The collected views of men comprise more than a collection of fairy tales set down by nomadic tribes in another part of the world.

8/25/2009 2:22:23 PM

Doubting Thomas

*sigh*

For the 27,395th time, evolution =/= atheism =/= a religion.

8/25/2009 2:48:27 PM

RavenWood

No, no, no, and no.

8/25/2009 3:01:57 PM

John

Children generally aren't taught about the Theory of Evolution until around 9th grade. The ToE simply describes what happens, not what ought to happen. It's not Darwin's fault that people are competitive and that some people are winners and others are losers. That's been true since the dawn of humanity. The ToE doesn't conflict with all religion; just fundamentalism.

8/25/2009 3:05:21 PM

EvoPagan

the fuck does evolution have to do with morality

8/25/2009 3:10:38 PM

Zoo

Because science has any say in our morals, other than to give us a good idea about why we evolved morals. If someone can't handle themselves because of a basic fact (humans are animals) or a basic process (evolution), they have much more trouble than "hardened evolutionists", atheists (remember that, like most Christians are not like you, most atheists are not like you except against religion either), and "darwinism".

"The collected views men are taught determine their system of morals and their way of life."

Yes, but tell me, how many morals did you learn in chemistry and physics class? How about anatomy? Cell biology? Optics? Engineering? Why, please enlighten me, would -one- MINOR topic in most people's lives, shape -everyone's- morality? Especially when those of us who study it in more depth live by a golden rule type principle, or even by religious values, rather than your "evolutionary values"?

8/25/2009 3:19:00 PM

Doctor Whom

It becomes extremely dangerous when religion-wacky men are set in positions of power to dictate that which the masses will believe in regard to human morality. Hardened God-botherers are determined not to merely let men choose for themselves the type of morality they will follow. Blind faith is foisted upon people, from kindergarten to the grave. God-bothering zealots are dedicated to wiping out every religion but their own. Their religion and only their religion is their creed and their objective. The Abrahamic religions inherently teach the most vicious set of moral principles. Declaring that man is but a wicked sinner who deserves damnation unless he follows a bunch of arbitrary laws to the letter, instruction is then given that the most successful believers are those that are the first to attack and destroy the infidels. The collected views men are taught determine their system of morals and their way of life.

Fixed.

8/25/2009 3:41:35 PM

Hammurabi

evolution-facts.org sure seems to be short on the latter in reference to the former.


8/25/2009 3:50:00 PM



evolution =/= morals

8/25/2009 4:18:21 PM

GodotIsWaiting4U

A) Evolution has nothing to say about morality.
B) Non-confrontational animals are actually far more likely to reproduce. Violent animals are more likely to die before they can reproduce. The most successful animals are the ones that can avoid dying long enough to reproduce, so the ones that are really really good at, say, running away from fights are in fact more successful than preemptive strikers.

8/25/2009 4:21:20 PM

WMDKitty

What the shit? Just... what the shit?

8/25/2009 4:35:45 PM

Mitch

Proper evolutionary biologists will never use a scientific fact and theory to replace morality in society.

On the other hand, hard atheists will do anything to remove the perception that morals came from religions.

Personally I don't think morals came from religion, but I do believe that religion is collaborated from ancient morals from experiences of individual 'goat herders' or whatever.

However, as we can see in Saudi Arabia, those morals are no longer applicable to modern society, in a sense, we can't have a stable moral code, but a morality based on present situations.

8/25/2009 4:45:10 PM

Blackvoice

"Be nice, you'll live longer." Wow, what a difficult and terrible moral stand.

8/25/2009 4:47:47 PM

Angua

Evolution is no more a moral code than gravity is.

There are religous people out there that manage to accept the theory of evolution while still maintaining their faith.

And, I think you misunderstood survival of the fittest. The most successful animals are not necessarily "those that are fisr to attack and destroy." If we all killed each other, we wouldn't exactly be very "successful" as a species would we?

8/25/2009 4:50:08 PM

Porter

Lolwut? I almost fell down your slippery slope. You should put up a warning sign.

8/25/2009 5:17:42 PM

werewolf

Don't worry, Vance. Hardened evolutionists can only maintain that state for four hours. Any longer and they'll have to consult their doctors.

8/25/2009 5:21:34 PM



SHINY FUCKING MIRROR

8/25/2009 6:20:53 PM

BobsOldSocks

"It becomes extremely dangerous when materialistic men are set in positions of power to dictate that which the masses will believe in regard to human morality."

Unlike, say, delusional presidents of the US who blather about gog and magog while in conversation with other world leaders? The same person who believes in absolute morality - which does not and cannot exist - and who is only too eager to sacrifice the lives of thousands for his twisted fundamentalist religious beliefs while demonstrating a total lack of any kind of morality whatsoever? That's a better choice, right?

"Hardened evolutionists are determined not to merely let men choose for themselves the type of morality they will follow."

Morality is dictated by societal norms and by personal conscience, not by a book of fairy tales written by bronze age goat herders. While you may wish to continue to behave like an ill-disciplined and untrustworthy child the rest of us have long since grown up, taken personal responsibility and accepted the consequences of our actions.

"Evolution is foisted upon people, from kindergarten to the grave."

Evolution is a *fact*. To deny facts and thus reality makes you dangerously irrational.

"Evolutionist zealots are dedicated to wiping out every religion but their own."

Evolution is not a religion, it is a *fact*. Most christians accept the evidence for evolution, only those - like you - who worship a very tiny and impotent god reject reality.

"Atheism and only atheism is their creed and their objective."

This is patently and demonstrably untrue - the majority of christians accept the evidence for evolution.

"Darwinism inherently teaches the most vicious set of moral principles. Declaring that man is but an animal, instruction is then given that the most successful animals are those that are the first to attack and destroy."

Arrant nonsense, the most successful life forms are those that leave the most offspring - differential reproductive success. Your violent fantasies say nothing about the ToE and *everything* about you.

"The collected views men are taught determine their system of morals and their way of life."

Only if you are a mindless, religious zealot with absolutely no ability to think for yourself.

8/25/2009 6:37:18 PM



"It becomes extremely dangerous when materialistic men are set in positions of power to dictate that which the masses will believe in regard to human morality".

Finally, a fundie sees the light about the RNC and FOX News.

8/25/2009 7:30:07 PM

Ken

Yes, because as a savage atheist, I naturally have the urge to chase down herds of weaker things and devour their flesh. Oh, if only I had an ancient book to help me mend my ways!

8/25/2009 8:29:53 PM

Caustic Gnostic

Who what?

No, the most successful animals find hoohah.

8/25/2009 8:52:55 PM

LOLWUT

For a site that calls itself evolution-facts, they're not too devoted to facts about evolution.

Evolution is science.

8/25/2009 9:42:04 PM

anon

Fundy Christian zealots are dedicated to wiping out every religion but their own.

Problem solved.

8/25/2009 10:15:43 PM

aaa

I've heard this shit before. It's still retarded.

8/25/2009 10:27:57 PM
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