Quote# 64979

I am not arguing for racism here; I am a Pan-Nationalism who supports Post-Globalism. But I am arguing against anti-Racism, and all those who think will see I'm right and anti-Racists are fools.

When you think about it:

* Every major corporate is against racism;
* George W. Bush is against racism;
* Hippies are against racism;
* The super-wealthy are against racism;
* Hollywood is against racism;
* The church is against racism;
* Judaism is against racism;
* The prison system is against racism.

Is there anyone whose motives you trust who is against racism? No, they're all in it for the profit, or to make themselves feel good.

burnitdown, Burzum Forum 37 Comments [8/22/2009 9:19:19 PM]
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* Every major corporate is in favor of breathing oxygen;
* George W. Bush is in favor of breathing oxygen;
* Hippies are in favor of breathing oxygen;
* The super-wealthy are in favor of breathing oxygen;
* Hollywood is in favor of breathing oxygen;
* The church is in favor of breathing oxygen;
* Judaism is in favor of breathing oxygen;
* The prison system is in favor of breathing oxygen.

Is there anyone whose motives you trust who is in favor of breathing oxygen?

8/22/2009 9:33:32 PM


Burzum Forum... That really tells you all you need to know.

8/22/2009 10:49:10 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Maybe this should be on CTSTDT. I'm trying to picture the evil convoluted conspiracy involving Hippies, George W., Hollywood and the Prison System which uses the ruse of "can't we all just get along?"

8/23/2009 12:32:39 AM

8/23/2009 12:35:59 AM

Nathan the Wise

Whose motives would you trust, then, twitface? And if you are against anti-racism ... what are you for?

8/23/2009 3:22:01 AM


Better be an anti-racist for the money, than being a racist for the money. We're all joined in our worship of Mammon.

8/23/2009 4:34:33 AM


* The prison system is against racism.

Something tells me that burnitdown has never been on the inside.

8/23/2009 4:56:32 AM

The prison system is against racism?. I hope it explains why more black people end in prison than whites. And by the way, all those guys use computers, does it mean that you should stop using this?

8/23/2009 5:49:49 AM

lol what

This is quite possibly the worst argument for racism (yes, you are arguing for racism, 'LOL I'M ACTUALLY AN ANTI-ANTI RACIST' is not an argument) that I have ever seen.

8/23/2009 6:34:41 AM


This doesn't sound as explicitely racist as the old "ethics don't exist as everyone has hidden motives" excuse. Dude is probably repressing some guilt for being an asshole in general and attempting to feel better by pretending that more selfless people are all hypocrites.

8/23/2009 6:36:54 AM


George W. Bush is against racism?

You want to run that by me again?

No. Wait. Let me get some more Arabs and you can run it by all of us again.


That's what I thought.

(as for the general gist of this comment, for one thing it's a logical fallacy and for another, yes, there are people against racism whose motives I trust, namely everyday people who've suffered from racism. And so far, all they've managed to do is get big business to pay lip service, not actually change. GTFO.)

8/23/2009 7:14:44 AM


Fallacy is not good for you, kid.

8/23/2009 8:14:26 AM

The Watcher

I'm against racism.

I trust me.


8/23/2009 10:34:11 AM


Huh? There are so many double negatives in here it doesn't even make sense!

8/23/2009 11:26:20 AM


8/23/2009 12:46:23 PM


burnitdown has a point, everyone! And assuming that none of us are capable of forming our own opinions, and must instead mindlessly mirror the opinions of people whose motives we trust, I think we should all join him or her in being a non-racist anti-anti racist!

8/23/2009 1:10:27 PM

Yama the Space Fish

Your music's bad and you should feel bad.

8/23/2009 2:23:32 PM


That's like me saying the color green is bad because I don't like it but people I don't like do.

8/23/2009 8:15:52 PM


Yeah, the Jews I've known are among the most racist people I've ever met.

And the prison system is all about racism.

8/23/2009 8:33:41 PM


The Judaism part is a bit sketchy (covering for anti-semitism?) but this IS absolutely true. People hide all sorts of agendas by saying they're "against racism." Its like when a cult leader says, "I'm for love" or a politician says, "I want to unite the country instead of dividing it." It is such a generic statement, it is meaningless.

Making a position APPEAR anti-racist also makes for easy rhetoric. Since most of the users here are fairly liberal, I'll use an example with the Republicans.

Republican talk show hosts (as well as evangelical Christians) often claim that abortion was invented by eugenics advocates to limit black populations. Therefore, according to them, it is "anti-racist" to be Pro-life and racist to be Pro-Choice.

Even if abortion was invented by eugenics advocates (which I doubt)that would not determine if it should be legal or not because abortions are available to everyone. Unfortunately, many people fall for this logic.

EDIT: Looking at the original thread, that individual probably is racist. My point regarding the submitted quote however still stands.

8/24/2009 12:10:29 AM


"Guilt by Association" fallacy anyone?

8/24/2009 7:40:38 AM

Yama the Space Fish

Burzum is for racism.

Burzum fucking sucks.

8/24/2009 7:57:17 AM


"I am not arguing for racism here ... But I am arguing against anti-Racism"

Uhhh... okay.

8/24/2009 11:06:29 AM

Dr. Novakaine

That's right, twist a redeeming factor (in some cases, the ONLY redeeming factor) of people and groups into something bad to support your vile argument. You're only making yourself look like an utter fool.

8/24/2009 11:22:44 AM


Get out of my music fandom, bitch.

Yeah, Varg Vikernes (Burzum frontman) is a racist, but honestly, it doesn't bother me that much to listen to it, since none of his lyrics address it (the ones that can be translated beyond "GRAAAAH AAAAAGH YAAAAH" are pretty much entirely about LOTR). If they did, though, that would be a different monster entirely (SEE: Bad Brains, hardcore homophobes, wrote a song about how AIDS is God's punishment for being gay... the band may be incredibly influential and beloved by pretty much everyone to ever play rock music from the 80's onwards, but I draw the line at that shit)

8/24/2009 1:54:11 PM

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