[about the IMDB ratings about Expelled)
Because of the apparent blackballing of the film by people who had never seen it, it is difficult to tell what actual viewers of the film thought. Removing the almost obligatory '1' ratings under the above assumption 1600 voters on the IMDB website gave it a 8.5 rating on a scale from 1 to 10.
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Perhaps you can ask IMDB to remove the ratings on all Christian movies so as to make it appear that Christian movies are very popular and wanted in our society...sort of like Youtube Christians who closely moderate comments, or just shut them off alltogether. Regardless, they still shut off the rating because they cannot control it.
From the IMDb site:
Weighted Average Ratings
IMDb publishes weighted vote averages rather than raw data averages. Various filters are applied to the raw data in order to eliminate and reduce attempts at 'vote stuffing' by individuals more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it.
The exact methods we use will not be disclosed. This should ensure that the policy remains effective. The result is a more accurate vote average.
Sorry, conservapedia, this isn't the Olympics and you can't summarily throw out the lowest/highest scores. Further, the IMDb already uses filters and algorithms to ensure the "purity" of the user rating system. So the low rating for the film is the actual expression of the voters' disdain for it.
I watched it after downloading it from the pirate bay.
This film sucks in a variety of different manners. There are propaganda films with less bias. It seems to be edited by a drunken ape. The film is best used as an example of how not to make a documentary.
A not-so-little-known fact: The admins at Conservapedia delete articles and restore them to reset their view counters. They do that if they get hit by a clickbot.
All that accomplishes is that it demonstrates that the view counters are demonstrably being manipulated on the both sides of the debate and should therefore not be trusted at all.
Same for your IMDB ratings. If you can't trust them, don't use them at all. Especially if you arbitrarily fudge the results instead of fixing the problems - killing all 1-votes will also eliminate those people who did see the film and thought it was shit.
If (and I'm not saying it is) it is fair to remove the "1" ratings, would it not be equally fair to remove all the "10" ratings? Of course, that would probably put the rating back down to where it really belongs.
aaa said: The film is best used as an example of how not to make a documentary.
If they were smart they'd sell it to film schools for just this reason. It's likely the only way they'll make a profit on it.
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What is even more apalling is the rest of the Conservapedia entry linked to the quote.
Poor, poor ID "scientists" working so hard to give the world their message, but those ebil scientific academics are repressing & persecuting them...
So, by claiming that anyone who gave it a 1 never saw it? Very scientific. Basically, you're saying that except for the people who thought it totally sucked, everyone liked it.
Even more amazingly, if you remove all the 1-9 votes you get a perfect 10.0!
But seriously, just about the only people who watch it are Atheists looking for a laugh or want to keep an open mind, see what it's like, etc. (will obviously vote 1star) and Christians who just take it in without questioning it who'll vote 8-10. And AFAIK, IMDB have an anti - votebot system in place unlike Youtube.
If you're going to remove the "1"s, under the notion that they're the result of ballot-stuffing, you need to remove the "10"s for exactly the same reason.
THEN what are you left with?
Here's the rotten tomatoes score:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/expelled_no_intelligence_allowed/
It got a 10% "freshness" rating. So did Catwoman. These are people who actually watched the movie. The overall score includes people who loved and hated the movie. Most critics hated it. I recommend reading Roger Ebert's excellent review of Expelled . He tears that propaganda piece apart and does a superb job of defending evolutionary theory and shows his utter contempt for Ben Stein's willingness to exploit the Holocaust.
my favorite part of renting the movie a few months ago was seeing that the only quote on the DVD case, where one would normally include good reviews from news papers or something, was "This is an Amazing Movie! - Glenn Beck"
the movie was just retarded, though. he spent about 20 minutes trying to tie atheism to the holocaust by just ambling around Germany and trying to use visual valence issues to somehow make an argument
The entire movie is an attempt to set up legal arguments that allow them to force creationism into the scientific and education community. They lost these same arguments at the Dover trial and know these arguments are lame and unconstitutional.
Ben Stein had a nearly word for word mantra on every promotional interview (many can be found on Youtube) and zeroed in on this 'teach the contraversy' issue every time.
By the way, the people fired weren't (in all cases) doing their job. You wanna be a priest then do it, otherwise keep your religion out of your job.
'All that accomplishes is that it demonstrates that the view counters are demonstrably being manipulated on the both sides of the debate ..'
Hmmm...can we trustthat Conservapedia genuinely know they have been hit by a clickbot? I suggest this only demonstrates that they are doing the manipulating.
What is known is that fundies turn up to a showings of a film dramatizing the true story of dirty tricks by fundies harassing video store owners and fill in ths slips marking the film with a 1 and then walk out without even seeing the film. Anyone heard of anyone doing that with Expelled or similar film?
I dont think so.
Wow. Non-US users gave an average of 2 for Expelled on IMDb. I don't think I've ever seen another rating that low. Not only that... The movie had MORE 1-votes than all the other votes combined - that is just insane!
Regarding the quote;
If you remove the retards voting 10 for that shitfest, you'd end up with an avg of 2.4.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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