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A lack of religous belief means no fear of death... No fear of what might happen after death will doom mankind.
Gman in Cali,
[8/28/2009 7:02:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random
8/28/2009 7:09:34 PM
Well, at least you admit that fear is the primary motivator to you being religious. Now, take the next step and realize that that's BULLSHIT!
8/28/2009 7:18:45 PM
1. I'm sure people can find plenty to fear regarding the concepts of oblivion and futility.
2. Just because there's no God, doesn't automatically mean no afterlife. This could be a natural thing, like an insect's metamorphosis.
(Yes, I know what most of you are going to say about spirits. I'm just trying to point out that afterlife doesn't automatically imply God.)
8/28/2009 7:20:22 PM
No, terminal stupidity and death cults will doom mankind.
8/28/2009 7:22:36 PM
For years and years of my life I was suicidal. The ONLY reason I didn't kill myself was because I was terrified of dying.
A few months ago, I stopped being scared of death...and I stopped being suicidal, too. I would say that it was fortunate that those two events happened almost simultaneously, before I could go and off myself while still in suicidal mode, but I don't think it was a coincidence.
Fear makes people miserable.
8/28/2009 7:36:54 PM
Actually, it's the other way around, we don't believe that we'll go to happy happy land when we die, we will just rot in the ground so we'd better appreciate life.
8/28/2009 7:37:59 PM
It doesn't work that way. Animals you'd probably claim don't have souls fear death. Life wants to keep living. And consequences in the here and now (because we don't each live in our own vacuum) are plenty to keep people in line without giving them complexes about what might happen later.
8/28/2009 7:40:11 PM
Evil Pirate Captain Mel
Ha! You people fear death so much that you actually believe that you will live on after death. Stfu.
8/28/2009 7:52:15 PM
Look, both religous and non-religous people can feel fear. I guess fear of going to Hell after you die can get bad. And non-existance can be a scary concept too (though I think that's certainly less frightening or horrific than an eternity of torture.) There aren't many atheists out there who actually want to die, you know, or who don't actually care about their lives. Mostly what I fear when thinking about what will happen after my death is the same thing I fear alive, here and now: about all the terrible nasty things that are going on in the world and the terrifying things that might.
8/28/2009 8:00:40 PM
you've really walled your self in this time.
- a liar.
- not afraid of death, and by your own poorly explained comment, somehow evil because of it.
- doubting your faith.
- or an unrepentant sinner.
8/28/2009 9:08:33 PM
So because we don't believe in an eternity after death we don't fear it?
DOES. NOT. COMPUTE!
8/28/2009 9:19:52 PM
Man Called True
I'm an atheist, and the thought of death scares me to the point I suffer panic attacks.
Explain that, Gman.
8/28/2009 9:26:04 PM
Just because I don't believe in God doesn't mean I want to die.
8/28/2009 10:15:16 PM
I thought it was Christians who weren't supposed to be afraid of death because they were going to Heaven?
8/28/2009 10:36:22 PM
Huh? There does not need to be a religious afterlife to fear death. To me an eternal state of nothingness is also fearful. Your argument fails.
8/28/2009 11:35:36 PM
Yep. Liberating, isn't it?
8/29/2009 1:07:36 AM
"A lack of religous belief means no fear of death... No fear of what might happen after death will doom mankind."
Well, let's look it the other way around, shall we? Fear of might happen after death without fear what will happen before death will doom mankind, as suicide bombers prove time and time again.
P.S."A lack of religous belief means no fear of death..."
Is it the opposite day again?
8/29/2009 1:56:31 AM
So what? My complete lack of fear just makes me fearless.
8/29/2009 2:31:35 AM
How does the no-fear-thingy doom mankind?
Oh, and I don't believe and have plenty of fear regarding... well, not death, because I have no diea what that will be, either there is something afterwards, what is good... or there is nothing... what won't bother me anymore...
But dying... it scares me a lot! - if death is nothing... wouldn't dying be like dissapearning into that nothingness... maybe while realizing one is? - Scary thought there!
8/29/2009 2:34:19 AM
Absolutely wrong. If anything it's the supersitious belief in ridiculous imaginary friends that will doom mankind.
8/29/2009 2:44:48 AM
Actually I think he's talking about Judgement Day, not fear of death itself, and I think he has a point where many fundies are concerned, who seem to have little moral compass of their own, and whose actions are only tempered by their fear of judgement and eternal damnation after death.
8/29/2009 2:57:22 AM
Yes, because there is nothing to fear. It's all a part of Nature, death feeds life. I don't see how this will "doom mankind."
8/29/2009 3:35:23 AM
"I'm not frightened of dying. Any time will do; I don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying? There's no reason for it—you've gotta go sometime" – Gerry O'Driscoll, on The Great Gig In The Sky
8/29/2009 4:05:03 AM
That's where you're wrong. People can fear death without having to believe in an afterlife. People mainly fear untimely death (anything under 70) and most people don't want to live forever anyway.
8/29/2009 4:29:27 AM
I suppose he's suggesting Hell. Hasn't made Christians any better at peace
8/29/2009 6:04:55 AM