A lack of religous belief means no fear of death... No fear of what might happen after death will doom mankind.
Gman in Cali,
[8/28/2009 7:02:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random
"A lack of religous belief means no fear of death... No fear of what might happen after death will doom mankind"
Quite the opposite, actually. Thus Jonestown. Heavens Gate. And Al-Qaeda.
And you wonder why Atheism exists?
And not worrying about our earthly existence too, as I see.
But aren't religious people REWARDED after death? We atheists are the ones scared shitless of dying.
Right, because all those suicide bombers were terrified of dying.
If we don't fear what will happen after death then an imaginary bogey man will punish everybody.
I'm not sure I follow your reasoning.
I miss read this at first and thought well I don't have religion and I don't fear death.
Now I realize that's his point. Not sure why fearing death is a good thing. I fear dying, I fear being in a hell of a lot of pain for a long time. But death itself, nope no fear at all.
So again, why is this bad?
8/29/2009 12:13:44 PM
You will find that what happens after death is extremely boring. Oh, wait. No you won't.
8/29/2009 1:12:57 PM
"...no guilt in life, no fear in death, this is the power of Christ in me..."
Atheists have a reason to be scared of death. Religious people (usually) don't.
8/29/2009 3:13:40 PM
You might say that it is actually the oposite. Religious belief means that you make this whole mithos about an aftelife. Giving you comfort at your last moments.
I would be far more frightned about death if i had no form of religious (I use the term losely) belief
8/29/2009 6:51:38 PM
I've heard a lot of Christians say that they weren't afraid to die because of their religion. But I know that's BS because Christians are just as afraid of death (if not more so) than anyone else. And scientific studies have shown that devout Christians are more likely to request life-prologing treatment.
But basically you're saying that fear is the primary reason people follow religion.
8/30/2009 7:38:08 PM
No, it is the opposite. When you think you have paradise to look forward to, you start to embrace the idea of death. When you think that this is it, death is FAR more frightening.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
I wish I could find the quote; goes someting like -
I spent the first five and a half billion years in the void and it hasn't inconvenienced me in the least.
I solved that problem by believing in reincarnation of a fashion. Bingo, no more dwelling on what might happen after death. Now I'm free to care about all the things that happen before my death.
...Really? Because um, last I checked just about everyone I knew was afraid of dying regardless of religious belief.
And, just a thought, but doesn't religion teach that there's a better life AFTER death, and so believers shouldn't be afraid of death? From what I know, that's true of the world's three major religions. Presuming, Gman, that you are among the masses in these three religions, I ask you: why the fuck don't you know your own religion?
8/31/2009 3:23:18 PM
I think a lot of people become (or stay) religious BECAUSE they're afraid of death...
8/31/2009 6:12:26 PM
I'm more afraid of dying in pain or dying too soon. Does that count?
8/31/2009 7:35:48 PM
Actually nonexistance can be very frightening, more than afterlife.
9/10/2009 6:13:03 PM
Uh, I don't know about you, Mr. I-Go-To-A-Magic-Happy-Place-When-I-Die, but I'm not particularly eager to shed this mortal coil just yet.
9/10/2009 6:27:57 PM
Philbert, it is Twain but I can't remember whence whither either. But it's a good quote, and bears repeating.
Death is more misunderstood than fearsome. Has anyone just sat down and had a good discussion with him/her? I think Death is quite amicable where it comes to reasonable agreements.
9/10/2009 8:10:44 PM
There have been very dark times earlier in my life when I was suicidal and the ONLY thing that kept me from following through was the fact that I don't believe in magical thought.
9/10/2009 10:11:59 PM
"A lack of religous belief means no fear of death... No fear of what might happen after death will doom mankind."
Gman in Cali's logic here reminds me of Shirou in the 'visual novel'/anime "Fate/Stay Night":
9/11/2009 2:02:31 PM
Mankind is, or will be, doomed by crazy people.
9/11/2009 5:37:00 PM