It is far more reasonable to accept the Biblical claim that God created all of mankind's different languages; than it is to believe that some space-dust from a massive chaotic explosion somehow became? life, and then took on intelligence, and then from the same evolutionary process ended up with 7,000 different languages. That makes no sense at all.
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Actualy, both notions are pretty absurd, Which is probably why no sensible adult gives much credence to either of your fantasys.
Especialy since the overwhelming mass of evidence points to a third option that human languages diversified in isolation as human populations spread out.
This one is all over the place First linguistics/anthropology, then perhaps the Big Bang mixed in with abiogenesis, then evolution. Indeed, your ranting makes no sense at all.
Languages change and develope as groups of people separate.
The big bang was more like a space/time expansion thingie.
The big bang is not abiogenesis nor does it have anything to do with the ToE.
The ToE says nothing about linguistics.
That makes no sense at all.
This is the first thing you got right.
@Doug:
Exactly. If God really created different languages to prevent us from understanding each other (as in the Tower of Babel story), then why are so many languages so closely related? Why are e.g. the Scandinavian languages so alike, that any Scandinavian understands the other two languages pretty well, with no former knowledge of them?
It doesn't quite fit with the whole "I'm going to make you not understand each other! Love, God." notion.
Obviously a home schooled ignoramus. Any NORMAL school teaches the rudiments of history, as it is. Not as the mythological bible tales read.
Fail on so many levels, I can't count them. That's what makes no sense at all. Probably never heard of the "romance" languages, for instance, all derived from the common language of Latin! Latin existed way before your imaginary friend Jesus was supposed to have lived. They were there first!
Hey GodsSoldier, are you even aware that French, Italian, Spanish, even English are derivatives of Latin? I would guess not. Your language knowledge is probably nil.
Your general knowledge probably is lacking too. Get your nose out of the bible and learn some real history, philosophy, science, etc. We passed the dark ages centuries ago.
*siighh* I get so weary of these mental midgets, sometimes.
some space-dust from a massive chaotic explosion somehow became life, and then took on intelligence [...] That makes no sense at all.
You're right, that makes no sense. Which is why nobody except you actually claims that it happened that way .
Languages mutate just like everything else does, for the reasons already mentioned. Your precious American English is actually a Germanic language with word stock that migrated from French, Spanish, and other Romantic languages.
Your god didn't create Grim's Law. Sorry, you fail.
You don't happen to be a cosmologist, paleontologist, evolutionary biologist AND a linguist, do you? What's that? No? So why can't you take the evidence that experts in the field have broken down for the layman and actually read it? Just because "God did it" is easier for you to understand doesn't mean it's correct.
It's a fucking MYTH! Just like many of the Greek myths, it was created to explain an aspect of the world: why are there so many cultures and languages if we all supposedly came from one family?
You honestly believe your almighty God was so threatened by a tall building they were creating that he scattered all the people around the world and made them incomprehensible to one another?
Yet somehow he doesn't have a problem with all our buildings today, which are much, much larger and taller than anything they could've built back then. I guess he got over his inferiority complex.
If you'd Googled your question first you would have learnt the answer before embarrassing yourself by exposing such profound ignorance.
If you'd even thought about it for a minute, you'd have recognised the changes in languages from the times of the King James Bible, or Shakespeare or Chaucer. or today between Americans, English or Australians.
Instead, in your arrogant refusal to check your facts you have proven yourself a fool.
It is far more reasonable to accept the Biblical claim that God created...
That's your choice, decision, view point, life style, etc.. What ever you want to call it, it's yours.
However, it's not mine so please don't tell me what to believe, think or feel is reasonable.
Actually, language roots can be traced back and evolution of different languages can be studied. It's far more believable than a story about a bunch of people who thought they could build a tower to reach God, who got all angry at them for trying and after the tower collapsed, made them all speak in different languages. If this were true, then why aren't there places in the middle east where every language on earth is natively spoken? Why did everyone who spoke English go to England to live, while everyone who spoke Chinese went to China, etc?
Well, since one is a ridiculous fairy tale and the other is a ridiculous straw man, I'd say that both are pretty unreasonable.
The multitude of languages (and sub-dialects) is pretty much exactly what you'd expect to happen in a world guided by evolution. Like biological adaptations, language develops slowly over a long period of time, and isolated groups tend to split off from one another, developing different traits -- and different languages.
Of course, language differences are not good evidence for evolution or creationism. Language developed long after humans evolved. You're desperately grasping onto straws here.
Yes, that makes no sense. Mainly because you just spun a bunch of random crap from a bunch of random unrelated fundie arguments together.
If you took the time to study this crap, you'd realize that linguistic evolution is not quite the same as biological evolution, although it certainly works by a similar process (a population separating into smaller populations and adapting on their own and whatnot). It happens a lot faster, though.
What would really blow your tiny little mind however, is a process that happens right along with it: the evolution and spread of folk tales and religion. If you study this you'll find little bits and pieces of similar stories that appear in most religions and a myriad of folk tales. The most well-known example of this is the great flood.
That story appears with different names and events attached to it all over the world from Africa to Scandinavia to Japan to the native religions of North and South America. A lot of Christians realize this and try to say that it's proof that it really did happen. Perhaps it did in a localized fashion. But you know something? It didn't originate with your religion. The version in the bible is only a link in the chain of the tale's evolution. In fact, most of your entire bible is a hodgepodge of different stories that both pre-existed the bible and went on to become more advanced versions. Your bible (and it's many rewrites and translations) is just a blurry photocopy of a bunch of folk tales stuck fairly consistently in the stage of evolution they were in when they swept through land of nomadic goat herders that collected them together. And you worship that crap.
Yes, it is. It's a good thing no one is actually espousing that second process; the Big Bang, abiogenesis, biological evolution and linguistics work quite effectively to explain it as they stand.
"God created all of mankind's different languages"
Ah, so in that case, LL Zamenhof, who created Esperanto, and Marc Okrand, who created Klingon (and is spoken more than Esperanto, the next most popular constructed language) are God? In that case...:
The Bible is purely the invention of men - Bronze Age goatfuckers, to be precise.
Confused?
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