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Humanzee. What is it? Is it a chimpanzee? A human? Perhaps it is a hybrid of the two. Well, according to many evolutionary proponents, the humanzee is more than just a creature. This hypothetical mixture of human and chimpanzee genes is a great hope to validate their ideological premise that humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestor, in defiance of God's Holy Word, which holds a contrary position—that humans were created in the image of God, and given dominion over animals like the chimpanzee. To evolutionists, finding some way to prove that this is a possibility—that humans and apes can interbreed—is the pathway to legitimacy. However, history is littered with their failed attempts to prove such ridiculous claims.



Joshua Joscelyn, Creation Science Evangelism 57 Comments [8/27/2009 1:09:43 PM]
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Quantum Mechanic

Make up shit much?

8/27/2009 1:13:30 PM

DevilsChaplain

Shared....ancestor...with great apes.....NOT CHIMPANZEES YOU DUMBFUCK!

8/27/2009 1:13:56 PM

Headache

Joshua Joscelyn - uneducated, misinformed and completely wrong!

8/27/2009 1:17:58 PM

Mageapprentice

You. Mirror.

8/27/2009 1:22:05 PM

Mayhem

Nobody in the scientific community takes the humanzee idea seriously. It's only use is for side-show attractions.

8/27/2009 1:25:37 PM

Lucilius

I think I've seen humanzees at a number of tent revivals. They wear a lot of polyester.

8/27/2009 1:29:34 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Um, no. I'm pretty sure that evolutionary theory predicts exactly the opposite; that as species continue to diverge from a common ancestor, they will tend to become less interfertile.

8/27/2009 1:37:59 PM

Sanity

Uhm, no.
No scientists has thought Oliver the humanzee was anything other than a chimp. At least, not for 19 years.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/28165/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

We performed standard chromosomal studies which demonstrated that Oliver had the diploid number expected for a chimpanzee (2N = 48) and that the banding patterns of his chromosomes were typical for a chimpanzee and different from both humans and bonobos. We also sequenced a 312 bp region of his mitochondrial DNA D-loop region. Results indicated a high sequence homology to the Central African variety of chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes troglodytes. The highest percent homology was observed with a previously characterized specimen from Gabon, strongly suggesting that Oliver originated from this region

8/27/2009 1:49:13 PM

aaa

This is pathetic.

8/27/2009 2:03:53 PM

Philbert McAdamia

However, history is littered with their failed attempts to prove such ridiculous claims.

Are you Joshing us, Josh, or do you mean Murder in the Rue Morgue as history?

8/27/2009 2:18:12 PM

Horsefeathers

"Humanzee. What is it? Is it a chimpanzee? A human? Perhaps it is a hybrid of the two."

He's a chimp. A rather bizarre looking one, granted, but a chimp none the less. Genetic tests have shown as much. There's speculation he's some sort of subspecies, however.

"Well, according to many evolutionary proponents, the humanzee is more than just a creature."

I doubt that.

"This hypothetical mixture of human and chimpanzee genes is a great hope to validate their ideological premise that humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestor, in defiance of God's Holy Word, which holds a contrary position—that humans were created in the image of God, and given dominion over animals like the chimpanzee."

We've already done that. Quite some time ago. Genetics proves you fucking wrong.

"To evolutionists, finding some way to prove that this is a possibility—that humans and apes can interbreed—is the pathway to legitimacy."

Uh, no. And humans are apes you gibbering fucking moron.

"However, history is littered with their failed attempts to prove such ridiculous claims."

The only person I'm aware of that seriously thought about, and possibly attempted, some sort of human/chimp hybrid was some nut in Russia during the cold war.

It didn't work and I wouldn't exactly consider that "littered" either since it's the only example I'm aware of.

8/27/2009 2:21:01 PM

Papabear

History is indeed littered with failed attempts to prove ridiculous claims. Of course, there is honor in an actual attempt to prove a claim. Creationists can't prove their ideas using solid science and rarely even try, opting to do pseudo-science and quote Bible passages instead.

8/27/2009 2:21:41 PM

Canadiest

"in defiance of God's Holy Word, which holds a contrary position"

Yeah, speaking to the choir 'cause the hand ain't listening

8/27/2009 2:24:58 PM

Clown

Definitely WTF. You can't fake this grade of bullshit.

8/27/2009 2:30:23 PM



"However, history is littered with their failed attempts to prove such ridiculous claims."
iirc, the experiment has never actually been carried through with so far (due in large part to the ethical issues involved).

8/27/2009 2:36:21 PM

WMDKitty

Oh, fer fuck's sake....

8/27/2009 2:37:06 PM

Doubting Thomas

Maybe the humanzee is related to the knuckle-dragging apes you normally see trying to refute evolution. It's easy for them to disbelieve in evolution when it would appear they haven't evolved much.

8/27/2009 2:37:54 PM

EvoPagan

To evolutionists, finding some way to prove that this is a possibility—that humans and apes can interbreed—is the pathway to legitimacy. However, history is littered with their failed attempts to prove such ridiculous claims.

I would be very much interested in seeing some evidence for this assertion.

*taps foot*

8/27/2009 2:46:56 PM

RavenWood

I may be a humble librarian, not an evolutionary biologist but this reeks of bullshit.

8/27/2009 2:54:15 PM

Nathan the Wise

Humanzee. What is it?

Something that does not exist. Next!

8/27/2009 2:54:38 PM

Zoo

First, evolution doesn't work that way.

Second, science doesn't work that way.

Third, nobody thinks humans can interbreed with other apes and nobody's trying to prove they can. You must have started reading "Sims" (F. Paul Wilson), but you clearly didn't finish it. You also missed the part where it's fiction.

8/27/2009 3:00:53 PM

Tindalos

This hypothetical mixture of human and chimpanzee..

Do you mean like this...



how about some of the other hypothetical mixtures that you cretonists love to prattle on about? I present you, the CATDOG..



or how about the maginifcent CATDUCK...



and finally, the extremly rare FISHFROGMONKEY


8/27/2009 3:07:49 PM

Drax

Utter cak. No-one is trying to produce a human-chimp hybrid, nor is such a hybrid necessary to prove that the two species are closely related. Stop pulling shit out of your arse.

8/27/2009 3:24:13 PM

John

history is littered with their failed attempts to prove such ridiculous claims.

No it isn't. There's no evidence that anyone has ever attempted to interbreed a human with a chimp. Such an attempt would be universally condemned by science and religion alike. A viable hybrid would be very unlikely anyway, since humans and chimps have a different number of chromosomes.

8/27/2009 4:13:21 PM

Angua

Humanzee? That sounds like what someone would name a really stupid board game.

Also, no scientists haven't been thinking about trying to create a human/chimpanzee hybrid. You can't just transplant genes from one species to another like that. We're different species. Usually, two seperate species cannot breed. You can't have hybrid offspring in most cases. That's one of the reasons they're different species. Besides, that would be like trying to get a parrot/eagle hybrid to show that they shared a common ancestor. It's stupid and it wouldn't work. Genetics and biology simply don't work that way, except in bad sci-fi. Not to mention the ethical implications involving anything that includes human beings.

Also, coulcn't one interpret "created in God's image" to have a different meaning? Like that we have an imagination, or are intelligent, or have a soul, or are godlike in a spiritual way. Otherwise, you're saying God basically looks like a human being. That's a rather small and petty image for the omniscient and omnipotent Creator of the universe.

8/27/2009 4:19:14 PM
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