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Ok...how about these numbers...

80% of all abortions are black babies.

64% of all abortions are coerced.

80% of Americans believe there should be restrictions on abortion.

80% of all Downs Syndrome babies are aborted.

Abortion is quite possibly the most racist, misogynist, anti-disabled act any person can do.

It is an act of cold blooded murder where a child is either (1) vacuumed out of his mother's womb, or (2) scraped out of his mother's womb, or (3) poised and burned with salt water, or (4) delivered part way, then has his head crushed and brains scooped out with a spoon. If the child manages to survive any of this, chances are he'll be left for dead alone in a storage room.

On top of that, after going through this "procedure", the mother is told that the dismemberment of the child growing inside them was "no big deal"...she's offered no counseling, therapy, or resources to deal with the pain in her body and soul from the experience. More than likely, she's given more drugs to make her chemically sterile so she can be sexually available to men (i.e. birth control pills).

[T]his is the practice that the liberals are defending.

Take note, that never, not one time, have groups been on the side of declaring others "non-persons" or "property" (e.g. "non-viable") and been right.

Abortion supporters are on the same side as slaver owners and Nazis...and they are zealous for their own "final solution."

Mickey, Moonbattery 61 Comments [8/28/2009 7:07:48 PM]
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and 100% of the statistics that right wing douche bags quote are pulled right out of their asses!

8/29/2009 8:14:06 AM

Nowonmai

And 90% of statistics/percentages are made up on the spot.

8/29/2009 8:31:36 AM

Knotilus

You can make up statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that.

8/29/2009 9:23:52 AM



Wait, I thought that abortions were performed by rich self-absorbed white women................Which is not 100% either, depends with which foot they get up.

8/29/2009 9:36:20 AM

Turtle

I'll skip citation needed and just ask how black people choosing to have abortions is racist?

8/29/2009 9:37:40 AM

Musicalbookworm

Making shit up much?

8/29/2009 10:24:48 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

You realize that all your statistics are made up, right?

8/29/2009 10:28:12 AM

werewolf

Did you come up with these statistics all by yourself or did you have help?

8/29/2009 10:38:07 AM

Blackvoice

@Anon-e-moose

There are more than 150 now. *knows the first 151 and is ashamed*

8/29/2009 10:43:19 AM



Can you cite a source on those numbers?

"80% of all abortions are black babies."

And how exactly is that racist? It's not as if white people got pregnant, then said "Oops the baby is going to be black, better abort it!" What it means is that black women statistically get more abortions. Maybe because institutionalized racism leads a lot of black families to not have the resources necessary to take care of a baby?

"64% of all abortions are coerced."

If this were true, I'd agree that it's bad, but it doesn't mean abortion as a whole is bad. Pro-CHOICE. People should be able to CHOOSE whether to get an abortion or not, not coerced either way.

"80% of Americans believe there should be restrictions on abortion."

Who gives a shit? Most people believe there should be restrictions on driving (an 8 year old can't drive, and you have to pass a test first) but that doesn't mean driving is bad.

"Abortion is quite possibly the most racist, misogynist, anti-disabled act any person can do."

What if it's a white woman who, by her own free will, aborts a white, able-bodied baby? Oops!

The next couple of paragraphs are just plain bullshit. There ARE plenty of resources and counseling for woman who have abortions. Do some fucking research. Look at what simply a quick Google search turns up --> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=abortion+grief+counseling&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=9733483af0cc9d26

"Take note, that never, not one time, have groups been on the side of declaring others "non-persons" or "property" (e.g. "non-viable") and been right.

Abortion supporters are on the same side as slaver owners and Nazis...and they are zealous for their own "final solution.""

Not really since a fetus isn't a fully developed person. And even if it was, there's no "final solution" here. Nobody is trying to systematically exterminate all fetuses. All we want is for women to be able to have the CHOICE to have an abortion or not. The two things aren't remotely comparable.

8/29/2009 11:01:16 AM

Old Viking

The people at Moonbattery seem to live in some other, twisted, dimension.

8/29/2009 1:00:21 PM

Gloria

80% of all abortions are black babies.

real figure: 33.9% for US (highest is District of Columbia with 74.9%, lowest is Idaho with 0.5%. Data from 1995. source)

64% of all abortions are coerced.

I suspect there are no reliable sources for this, since coerced abortions are illegal. The only supporting statistics I can find are from prolife sites (only one is sourced, and when I searched the source I couldn't find this statistic.)

80% of Americans believe there should be restrictions on abortion.

AP-GfK Poll: 52% believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases.
Quinnipiac University Poll:52% believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases.
Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll: 44% believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases.
(source)
Yes, those are cherry-picked results: they are the ones that came closer to agreeing with you.

80% of all Downs Syndrome babies are aborted.

Still wrong, but this time in the other direction. Ignoring those prenatal disgnoses that ended in "unknown outcomes" the number aborted is about 91% (data from 2004. Unknown outcomes is about 35% of the total number of diagnoses though, so we're discarding a lot of cases to get that 91%. source)

Abortion is quite possibly the most racist, misogynist, anti-disabled act any person can do.

Statistics and personal motivations are two different things. Do not confuse them. Just because there are proportionally more black women getting abortions (and there are) does not mean that a white woman aborting a white baby is being racist. Similarly, making abortion illegal is not going to mean that the problems that cause that imbalance go away. (I would also point out that you haven't given any pseudo-support for your misogyny claim.)

Abortion supporters are on the same side as slaver owners and Nazis...and they are zealous for their own "final solution."

Godwin. This argument is over, and you lose.

@1014101

I happen to believe that abortion should be legal in most cases. Nevertheless, I think saying that having disabled children is "cruel and morally wrong" is disgusting. None of the people I know who have Down Syndrome (or other mental disabilities) wish they had never been born. I believe that the mother should have a choice, but not because all people with disabilities are helpless suffering people whose lives aren't worth living.

8/29/2009 4:39:22 PM

Ken

Health clinics that provide abortion services or refer to such clinics provide counseling services as well as birth control. This is to help PREVENT further abortions and also the reason I want to personally smack anybody who protests outside clinics. They also provide information for women who opt for having a baby or adoption.

People like this think they're defenders of the innocent but what they're really rallying for is the biological enslavement of women.

8/29/2009 6:55:48 PM

Caustic Gnostic

If a strong prenatal indicator for homosexuality is ever discovered, I'm going to bet that 100% of those fetuses in the bible belt will be aborted.

8/29/2009 8:21:21 PM

Eimiilove

What are slavers and why is it so bad to own them?

...oh wait. I see it, nevermind.

I call bullshit on your statistics. CITATION NEEDED.

8/29/2009 9:45:26 PM

Sigh...

take some shit here, sprinkle on some hate speech, mix it all together....and voila! An untrue statistic coupled with lying about abortion procedures!
the more brutal you get, the later in pregnancy it was. Thus, the most painful almost never occur. At all. it is usually painless and effective. And if the fetus is not aware of pain at that stage, it doesn't even matter. Cold blooded murder my arse.
Also, correlation causation fallacy. Abortion is mostly black babies. Abortion is racist!
It is also not an abortion clinic's job to provide therapy. And birth control pills are just to prevent repeats via domestic rape, or similar things not revealed to the authorities.
Well at least he didn't make a holocaust refere- ah fuck.

8/30/2009 2:39:52 AM

Gawd


Mad props to Mad the Swine. Fundie beatdown.

8/30/2009 6:17:15 AM

Mister Spak

99 and 44/100 of fundies are retarded.

8/30/2009 6:24:41 AM

Princess Rot

Notice the fetus is always referred to as male? I can tell who conservatives in this society value the most.

8/30/2009 12:37:01 PM

Canadiest

"Liar
I have sailed the seas
Liar.
From mars to Mercury
Liar Oh, You're lying to to me"

Paraphrased from Queens first album. Apt

8/30/2009 1:32:24 PM

Tindalos

I saw this pic today and feel it is appropriate for here. Maybe this should be Moonbattery's new logo?


8/30/2009 4:58:53 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

Godwin flag

Regardless of wether you had a good argument or not..the fact that you pulled a godwin allows me to be morally justified in ignoring whatever you have to say until the further threat of more godwins subsides and trust is re-built.

Please leave Hitler and the Nazi party back in the 1940's where they belong.

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8/30/2009 7:23:14 PM

Kevin Klaw

EvoPagan

I hear they do the brain-scooping with a grapefruit spoon. Cause it's those little ridges, dontcha know.


Uff-da.

8/30/2009 8:36:19 PM

Lithp

95% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Also:

"Abortion supporters are on the same side as slaver owners and Nazis...and they are zealous for their own "final solution."

They don't call me a "Grammar Nazi" for NOTHING, you know!

8/31/2009 1:55:44 AM
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