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[I once knew a 27 year-old man who married a woman he hardly knew just so he could have sex.]

Why is that a problem? I think it is great that such people choose marriage rather than sex without marriage. I think society would be much better off if it was more common and if the laws against adultery and fornication were enforced.

GrayDuck, RH Reality Check 56 Comments [8/31/2009 8:25:41 AM]
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C.H.

Oh yes, just imagine how different society would be! You could go into a house where an old man presents several hot women to you. You choose one, marry her on the spot, have sex with her, then divorce her. No premarital sex, it's a good, christian marriage. A short one, but who cares. And it's so practical - the house owner would have marriage and divorce certificates ready, you'd just have to pay a small fee for his troubles. Hell, he could even provide you with extra divorce and marriage certificates if you're already married to someone else! And the best thing is: there wouldn't be any more need for those filthy prostitues! Of course, there wouldn't be any more STDs either, because we all know that sex inside marriage is the best way to protect yourself from AIDS and stuff.
Wow. People in Saudi Arabia must be so happy with their lives.

8/31/2009 11:11:50 AM

CCMars

So you're admitting marriage isn't about love, companionship and trust in the person you want to spend the rest of your life with. It's just about having sex without guilt from The Big Bad Violent Prude. Glad to see where your priorities are.


8/31/2009 11:36:52 AM

John

Because we all know God hates sex unless you have a piece of paper from your government telling you it's OK.

8/31/2009 11:43:04 AM

observiNG

Reiterating what tracer said, in my state (Georgia) there are at least two paragraphs relating to such "sexual offenses", Fornication (16-6-18) and Adultery (16-6-19). Look it up on the Web (Georgia Code; LexisNexis would be a good place to research) if you really want to. Good thing is these laws are almost never enforced, at least not that I've ever heard of.

P.S. there is also an interesting paragraph, Masturbation for Hire (16-6-16). Sometimes reading these laws makes you wonder...

P.P.S. C.H. (#1015196), I've heard that in some countries in the Middle East with strict Islamic laws (Iran maybe?) this is exactly how prostitution works. In other words, people will find loopholes one way or another.

EDIT: Sorry, googling a little more showed that Georgia fornication laws have been struck several years ago. My bad.

8/31/2009 11:49:22 AM

LDM

Spoken like a true virgin.

8/31/2009 11:50:48 AM

Doctor Whom

@tracer

In some U.S. states, it's still illegal to have sex with someone you're not married to.

Including Virginia.

Which kinda makes you wonder about the state's tourism slogan, "Virginia is for lovers."


The Virginia fornication law has been ruled unconstitutional. Our state supreme court has finally joined this universe.

8/31/2009 11:53:25 AM

atrasicarius

protip: look up divorce rates. See how they've been rising? There's a reason for that.

8/31/2009 12:22:14 PM

Blackvoice

Marry, then have meaningless sex. Wonderful.

8/31/2009 12:33:05 PM



"I think society would be much better off if... the laws against adultery and fornication were enforced."

Totalitarians for Jesus. It's none of your damn business what consenting adults do in their own homes, you nosy prick. If that's the kind of society you want to live in, piss off to Saudi Arabia and get the hell out of the civilized world. (And you're factually incorrect, too. We have no such laws anywhere in this country.)

Other than that, if you want to have a really immature and bizarre philosophy about sex, that's your problem, not mine.

8/31/2009 12:35:04 PM

D Laurier.

[You knew a desperate and profoundly stupid 27 year old.]

It's a problem because for whatever reason, this 27 year old was so fixated on sex... yet unable to find a way to pursue this without the complication of marriage.
This is a sad tragedy for two people.
There are no laws against adultery, and/or "fornication" (sex)

8/31/2009 12:49:16 PM

Thejebusfire

[Why is that a problem? I think it is great that such people choose marriage rather than sex without marriage. ]

Sorry, marriage is about commitment, not sex. If you're going to marry that person just to fuck them, then don't bother getting married.

[I think society would be much better off if it was more common and if the laws against adultery and fornication were enforced.]

So, you thank it's okay to force people into marriages they don't like?
And how will you enforce these adultery and fornication laws? You gonna put hidden cameras in people's bedrooms?

8/31/2009 12:57:50 PM

Old Viking

GrayDuck is just an incurable romantic.

8/31/2009 1:34:13 PM

Lady Amairany Gray

Because sex is the point of marriage. Wait...

This is also why waiting until marriage is not such a good idea.

8/31/2009 2:37:27 PM

Amanda

Well, for starters it's a marriage lacking respect, love and commitment. Without those things, can it really be called a marriage?

8/31/2009 2:57:12 PM

Canadiest

She's a vagina to him, not the woman he loves. You people really never did get love. Did you? You speak of it, it's importance and that it's your Gods feelings and wish for us, but you don't know what it means between two people.

8/31/2009 3:08:53 PM

moose

hmmmmmmm....... from what I understand from my married buddies, This guy said it just like it is.
"choose marriage rather than sex without marriage".
Let's read that again slowly..."choose marriage (no mention of sex) rather than sex without marriage (not being married as a precurser of getting sex)". I dunno....just what some of my married buddies have told me.....

Sorry, I couldnt resist the humourous jab...........


8/31/2009 3:26:38 PM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

What laws against fornication and adultery?

8/31/2009 5:38:57 PM

tracer

@ Doctor Whom: Glad to hear it. Did this decision come before, after, or as a result of, the "Virginia is for Lovers" advertising campaign?

8/31/2009 6:09:02 PM



Hmm, in the military, you can indeed get in trouble for sodomy (I know a guy that got kicked out on over 200 counts of sodomy. Moral of that story: don't take sex tapes with you in them to work.)
You can also get in trouble for fornication and adultery. But unless they're detrimental to morale, they're usually ignored.

8/31/2009 6:34:07 PM

Zodiac

With that logic, you know where divorce rates are headed, right?

Give you a hint, it's not off the charts in the negative direction...

8/31/2009 6:55:10 PM

Elia

They've done it, folks. They've finally admitted what I'm sure some have suspected for so long: That it's not about being sure you're having sex with someone who genuinely cares for you, is disease-free, whatever. It's all about lifting that geas, that mandate against nookie outside marriage because the Big Boss Man would fry you in an instant. Hands up everyone who thinks GrayDuck would truly just LOVE to answer a "casual encounters" ad, or put one up online, despite his words.

8/31/2009 7:01:33 PM

GigaGuess

Well, it speaks volumes for this "sacred" union you deny homosexuals...

8/31/2009 9:37:52 PM

Eimiilove

What is this fuckery? Good shit, these people just get more and more insane. "Let's get married, essentially anonymous person, just so we can have sex" is NOT a good idea. Divorce rates are already high enough.

9/1/2009 2:15:16 AM

Eden

And this is the reason why there are so many divorces among you christian fundamentalists ;)

9/1/2009 2:44:39 AM

Princess Rot

Oh, not this douche. His ability to hate those who don't act in the way he thinks is moral is unbelievable. He fills up the RHRC forum with his illogical and patronising crap, and he seems to have something against the entire human race in general. It's horrible and evil if you have sex while unattached, but if you pay a little lip service and sign a piece of paper beforehand it's suddenly wonderful and marvellous? Does. Not. Compute.

9/1/2009 6:19:51 AM
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